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#65214 - 2003-04-28 09:53 PM Re: Automating W2K Installation w/Sysprep & KiX
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Windows 2000 or XP?

Did you clean out the drivers for keyboard/mouse/IDE?
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#65215 - 2003-04-28 09:56 PM Re: Automating W2K Installation w/Sysprep & KiX
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win2k
nope, I'm trying the video drivers now as it 'stops' between the black character mode and the GUI mini-setup...
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#65216 - 2003-04-28 09:59 PM Re: Automating W2K Installation w/Sysprep & KiX
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Sorry for the mix up. I didn't know you weren't getting into GUI-mode yet. Sounds like a driver issue.

Are you running sysprep with the -pnp switch?

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#65217 - 2003-04-28 10:06 PM Re: Automating W2K Installation w/Sysprep & KiX
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not yet... I'm hoping to do without it as it slows the process down a bit.

of course, if it is the difference between working and not working...
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#65218 - 2003-04-28 10:07 PM Re: Automating W2K Installation w/Sysprep & KiX
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Try this:

Clean up drivers before running SYSPREP:
Set keyboard to 'Standard 104-key'
Set Mouse to 'PS/2-compatible'
Set Video to 'Standard SVGA'
Set IDE to 'Standard IDE'
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#65219 - 2003-04-28 10:17 PM Re: Automating W2K Installation w/Sysprep & KiX
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it isn't auto installing the OEM drivers...

sysprep.inf
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[Unattended]
OEMSkipEula=Yes
OemPnpDriversPath=drivers\net;drivers\audio;drivers\video;drivers\Chipset;drivers\USB2
DriverSigningPolicy = Ignore

dir structure
-------------------------
c:\Drivers\Display\'lots of *.cat and *.inf files'

once it starts up, it prompts me for the drivers and if I direct it to c:\Drivers\Display it installs the drivers.

What am I doing wrong??
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#65220 - 2003-04-28 10:18 PM Re: Automating W2K Installation w/Sysprep & KiX
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other than naming the folder wrong [Mad] [Mad] [Embarrassed] [Mad] [Embarrassed]
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#65221 - 2003-04-28 10:24 PM Re: Automating W2K Installation w/Sysprep & KiX
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I find that if you re-sysprep a previous sysprep image that the device path gets appended to. I always reset the path with the following:
quote:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion]
"DevicePath"=hex(2):25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,6f,00,6f,\
00,74,00,25,00,5c,00,69,00,6e,00,66,00,00,00


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#65222 - 2003-04-28 10:31 PM Re: Automating W2K Installation w/Sysprep & KiX
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I have an image of the drive just before I syspreped it...

so I can restore it and make changes to the image and the sysprep it again
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#65223 - 2003-04-28 10:47 PM Re: Automating W2K Installation w/Sysprep & KiX
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BTW... here is my step-by-step image creation doc.

code:
 
Deleted all partitions
Created 3gb NTFS partition
Installed win2k SP2 from shipped with Compaq PC
Used CD key from label of Compaq PC
Admin acct pw: *******
Eastern timezone
Reboot

Unchecked Welcome to Windows
Installed NIC Driver via USB drive: 82557-based Integrated Ethernet with Wake on LAN 6.2.10 Rev. A
Installed Audio Driver via USB drive
Installed USB2 Driver via desktop. Copy to desktop from USB device first.
Installed Video Driver via USB drive
Reboot

Set screen resolution to 800x600x16 bit
Windows Update: install SP3
Reboot

Windows Update: Install IE6SP1
Reboot

Windows Update: All Critical Updates and Service Packs
Reboot

Turn off Automatic Updates
Windows Update: Q328523, Q322913, Q327269, Q322842
Reboot

Windows Update: Windows Media Player 9
Defrag Disk
Reboot

Image --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Install MS Office 2000SR-1 from CD1
Install Publisher 2000SR-1 from CD2
Install Flash/Shockwave 6
Install RealOne Player, Custom turn off all desktop settings, turn off default player settings
Install RealOne Security Update
Configure RealOne player to open with player only
Turn off auto update on RealOne Player
Install Adobe Reader 5.1 Full
Install Mcafee 4.5.1
Install Mcafee SP1
Reboot

Disable tray icon for Mcafee scheduler
Configure mcafee
Update & Upgrade McAfee
Copy console.cmd to winnt
Hide McAfee Icons except for Virus Scan
Set McAfee menu folder to read only
Removed Outlook Express Icons
Removed Adobe Reader, WMP icons from desktop
Created MSOffice folder, moved Icons and other MS program folders into that one
Configure Internet Properties\Programs\to MS Office apps
Install Chameleon from MSI
Update the Atlanta Icon to FMMIS, copy consultec.cfg from good PC
Netmanage LPD service to manual
Install Informix32 from MSI
Install Informix16, copy Hosts & Services, create Prog Group
Install Oracle 7
Defrag
Reboot

Image --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Start all programs to remove first time run events
Local machine/user policies as per John Terry
Add Screen saver policy
Do not use search-based method when resolving shell shortcuts
Add logoff to start menu
Create temp account
Clear MRU list HKCU\SMWCVE\RunMRU & Map Network Drive
Empty Temporary Internet Items
Empty Trash
Login to temp admin account
Copy admin profile to Default User
Clear Event Viewer
Resize Page File to 2x Ram
Login to admin account
Delete temp account
Delete temp profile
Delete video/display adapter (enables VGA mode)
Uninstall all obvious hardware drivers
Empty trash
Defrag
Reboot

Image --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Sysprep

Image --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


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#65224 - 2003-04-28 10:51 PM Re: Automating W2K Installation w/Sysprep & KiX
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Never install MS Office products from CDs!

Create an admin install on a shared drive and install from there. Otherwise users might get prompted to insert CDs. Also, you can install fixes to the admin install and then advertise the new package or apply the updated version via command-line on clients.
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#65225 - 2003-04-28 10:55 PM Re: Automating W2K Installation w/Sysprep & KiX
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they are transformed CDs

BTW, I already have the reg keys that point the office products to their install source...
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#65226 - 2003-04-29 02:15 PM Re: Automating W2K Installation w/Sysprep & KiX
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I still can't get the deployed image to get into the gui portion of mini-setup

it gets the character based progress bar to 100% and then nothing...

I've removed all the installed hardware devices as possible, but still nothing.
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#65227 - 2003-04-29 02:45 PM Re: Automating W2K Installation w/Sysprep & KiX
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According to your step-by-step...

quote:
Uninstall all obvious hardware drivers
Empty trash
Defrag
Reboot
Image -------------------------------------------
Sysprep

If you reboot after the uninstall of drivers then PNP would put them back on reboot before the sysprep.

I found that on some images, I had to replace the ACPI HAL with a generic one and then set it back after.
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#65228 - 2003-04-29 02:49 PM Re: Automating W2K Installation w/Sysprep & KiX
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ok... insert boot floppy
reboot

I did find this on Dell's site:
quote:

Mgoudreault wrote:
- I'm getting a strange behavior from my (all C600)
- laptop.
-
- We have about 2-300 C600's to deploy in W2K Pro. I
- made an image using Ghost 6.0 and Sysprep from
- Microsoft. Now, everytime i push the ghost image to
- a C600, it hangs on the first boot (in WINDOWS IS
- STARTING UP). I have to shut it down and restart so
- that the laptop boots up normally.
-
- I created different imagesand have the same problem.
-
- The BIOS is up to date "A09".

(reply)
I had the same sort of problem. I tracked it down to the machines that I was using to do a disk to disk ghost on were not using LBA translation to read the disk. The easiest way to fix it is to ghost the disks using a Dell desktop or alternatively try to find the disk translation setting in the BIOS and change it to LBA. To do this on the Compaq I was using I needed a BIOS upgrade. I would imaagine that the machine you are pushing the image to needs to be set to read the disk using LBA.


which is about what I'm experiencing. I'm going to dig up some other makes/models to test on, to see if the problem is just these new latitudes or that I just can't make an image.
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#65229 - 2003-04-29 02:54 PM Re: Automating W2K Installation w/Sysprep & KiX
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I have some machines where it hangs on first boot after sysprep but if I just reboot, it goes OK the second time.

Go figure!
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#65230 - 2003-04-29 09:18 PM Re: Automating W2K Installation w/Sysprep & KiX
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So I tried this from a different angle.

I built an image on the oldest PC I had, installed no 3rd party/OEM drivers and sysprepped it with:

sysprep -pnp -quiet -reboot -clean
code:
 
;SetupMgrTag

[Unattended]
OemPreinstall = Yes
ExtendOemPartition=1
KeepPageFile=1
InstallFilesPath=C:\sysprep\i386
OEMSkipEula=Yes
OemPnpDriversPath=drivers\net;drivers\audio;drivers\video;drivers\Chipset;drivers\USB2
DriverSigningPolicy = Ignore

[GuiUnattended]
AdminPassword=
AutoLogon=Yes
AutoLogonCount=1
OEMSkipRegional=1
OEMSkipWelcome=1
TimeZone=35

[UserData]
FullName=
OrgName=
ProductID=

[Display]
Xresolution=800
YResolution=600

[TapiLocation]
CountryCode=1
Dialing=Tone
LongDistanceAccess="9,"

[SetupMgr]
DistFolder=C:\sysprep\i386
DistShare=win2000dist

[Identification]
JoinDomain=fdhc

[Networking]
InstallDefaultComponents=Yes

[SysprepMassStorage]
Primary_IDE_Channel=%windir%\inf\mshdc.inf
Secondary_IDE_Channel=%windir%\inf\mshdc.inf
*PNP0600=%windir%\inf\mshdc.inf
*AZT0502=%windir%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\CC_0101=%windir%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_10B9&DEV_5215=%windir%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_10B9&DEV_5219=%windir%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_10B9&DEV_5229=%windir%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_1097&DEV_0038=%windir%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_1095&DEV_0640=%windir%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_1095&DEV_0646=%windir%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_0E11&DEV_AE33=%windir%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1222=%windir%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1230=%windir%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_7010=%windir%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_7111=%windir%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2411=%windir%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2421=%windir%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_244A=%windir%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_244B=%windir%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_7199=%windir%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_1042&DEV_1000=%windir%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_1039&DEV_0601=%windir%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_1039&DEV_5513=%windir%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_10AD&DEV_0001=%windir%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_10AD&DEV_0150=%windir%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_105A&DEV_4D33=%windir%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_0571=%windir%\inf\mshdc.inf

now when I try it on the new Evo and Latitude, both BSOD on inaccessable boot device.

The Evo uses the 'standard 2 channel IDE controller'

Help.... [Frown]
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#65231 - 2003-04-29 09:25 PM Re: Automating W2K Installation w/Sysprep & KiX
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Here's the SysprepMassStorage section that I use:

code:
[SysprepMassStorage]
;***********(Standard IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers)*********
Primary_IDE_Channel=%windir%\inf\mshdc.inf
Secondary_IDE_Channel=%windir%\inf\mshdc.inf

;*********** Generic_ESDI_Hard_Disk_Controller **********
*PNP0600=%windir%\inf\mshdc.inf

;*********** Aztech IDE Controller **********************
*AZT0502=%windir%\inf\mshdc.inf

;*********** Device ID for generic Dual PCI IDE *********
PCI\CC_0101=%windir%\inf\mshdc.inf

;************Acer Labs Inc ******************************
PCI\VEN_10B9&DEV_5215=%windir%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_10B9&DEV_5219=%windir%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_10B9&DEV_5229=%windir%\inf\mshdc.inf

;************Appian Technology **************************
PCI\VEN_1097&DEV_0038=%windir%\inf\mshdc.inf

;************CMD Technology *****************************
PCI\VEN_1095&DEV_0640=%windir%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_1095&DEV_0646=%windir%\inf\mshdc.inf

;************Compaq *************************************
PCI\VEN_0E11&DEV_AE33=%windir%\inf\mshdc.inf

;*************Intel *************************************
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1222=%windir%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1230=%windir%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_7010=%windir%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_7111=%windir%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2411=%windir%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2421=%windir%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_7199=%windir%\inf\mshdc.inf

;*************PC Technology *****************************
PCI\VEN_1042&DEV_1000=%windir%\inf\mshdc.inf

;*************Silicon Integrated System *****************
PCI\VEN_1039&DEV_0601=%windir%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_1039&DEV_5513=%windir%\inf\mshdc.inf

;*************Symphony Labs *****************************
PCI\VEN_10AD&DEV_0001=%windir%\inf\mshdc.inf
PCI\VEN_10AD&DEV_0150=%windir%\inf\mshdc.inf

;*************Promise Technology ************************
PCI\VEN_105A&DEV_4D33=%windir%\inf\mshdc.inf

;*************VIA Technologies, Inc. ********************
PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_0571=%windir%\inf\mshdc.inf

{edit} - which looks a lot like yours. [Confused]

[ 29. April 2003, 21:27: Message edited by: Chris S. ]

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#65232 - 2003-04-29 09:33 PM Re: Automating W2K Installation w/Sysprep & KiX
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The -clean switch shouldn't be used for Sysprep. It disables any boot devices that were loaded by the [SysprepMassStorage] section in the Sysprep.inf file. The command issues a stop command through Service Control Manager; any device that does not have hardware present responds to the command.

The -clean switch should only be used in the CMDLines.txt file to clean out unused drivers to help "imaged" PCs boot faster after being "sysprepped."

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#65233 - 2003-04-29 10:22 PM Re: Automating W2K Installation w/Sysprep & KiX
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I HATE being a dumbass

Make sure you are using sysprep 1.1

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