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#192383 - 2009-02-19 10:05 PM Kix and Wireless
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For some reason my kix logon script will not run when connecting to my network wirelessly? Can anyone help me get through this as i am just starting to set up Kix for our network, but will not be able to use it if it doesnt run on my wireless network.

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#192384 - 2009-02-19 10:59 PM Re: Kix and Wireless [Re: tgallup]
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well, for starters, do not use any wireless tool application.
if you do, most likely the wireless network wakes up AFTER you have already logged in.
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#192387 - 2009-02-19 11:37 PM Re: Kix and Wireless [Re: Lonkero]
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I am using Windows to manage my wireless, but it still seems to take a while to connect and then the script still doesn't run, is there a way force the wireless to connect faster?
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#192391 - 2009-02-20 12:08 AM Re: Kix and Wireless [Re: tgallup]
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hmm...
there was some wait for network setting that fixed issues way back, when XP became reality.
but, it's like 7-8 years ago, can't remember.
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#192392 - 2009-02-20 12:09 AM Re: Kix and Wireless [Re: Lonkero]
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hmm... well, you should check the GPO's you have.
runlogonscript sync and wait for network...
these are the 2 thingies that come to my mind.
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#192399 - 2009-02-20 09:08 AM Re: Kix and Wireless [Re: Lonkero]
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Some wireless cards have the issue to start the wireless card (load the drivers) after logon. Maybe the setting below will fix this. Some network cards (at least Intel does for some NIC's) have the option to let it startup before logon.

Always wait for network GPO setting:
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Computer Configuration\Administrative Templates\System\Logon
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#192400 - 2009-02-20 10:07 AM Re: Kix and Wireless [Re: Mart]
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thanks mart, that was it.
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#192401 - 2009-02-20 10:50 AM Re: Kix and Wireless [Re: Mart]
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Well if you go to the Properties of "My Network Places".
And then in the menu bar select "Advanced" / "Advanced Settings".
You can select in wich order your NIC's are accessed.
I put the Wireless NIC on top, since I mostly work wirelessly.

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#192440 - 2009-02-23 08:13 PM Re: Kix and Wireless [Re: Arend_]
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I have tried these things, and still no luck, should I have the bat file calling the kix in the profile of the user under AD, or should it be a group policy for start-up? Any help with this is greatly appreciated.
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#192443 - 2009-02-23 08:36 PM Re: Kix and Wireless [Re: tgallup]
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You need to determine when the actual connection takes place. If your network connection actually connects AFTER the user logs on then its not going to work too well. You'd need some type of delayed start that is triggered after the network connection is made, otherwise you need the IP connection to be able to work BEFORE or at least DURING the user log on.
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#192444 - 2009-02-23 08:43 PM Re: Kix and Wireless [Re: NTDOC]
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How can i delay it? I am new to this type of stuff with the wireless and delayed startup scripting...
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#192446 - 2009-02-23 09:12 PM Re: Kix and Wireless [Re: tgallup]
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eh, doesn't that wait for network exactly do that waiting?
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#192448 - 2009-02-23 09:52 PM Re: Kix and Wireless [Re: Lonkero]
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it didnt work for me for some reason...
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#192451 - 2009-02-23 10:09 PM Re: Kix and Wireless [Re: tgallup]
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ok, lets start simple.
what's your wireless adapter?

and don't say it's a usb dongle.
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#192452 - 2009-02-23 10:14 PM Re: Kix and Wireless [Re: Lonkero]
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No it is an intel Pro/wireless network adapter in a Dell Latitude D610.

I have set it as the first network adapter, configured the GPO to delay start, but the script still doesn't run.

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#192453 - 2009-02-23 10:18 PM Re: Kix and Wireless [Re: tgallup]
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do you have the proset wireless application installed?
if yes, you should start by uninstalling it...
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#192455 - 2009-02-23 10:29 PM Re: Kix and Wireless [Re: Lonkero]
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I did uninstall that so that windows manages the wireless...
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#192457 - 2009-02-23 11:12 PM Re: Kix and Wireless [Re: tgallup]
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hmm... I remember having this issue as well, but for my current network, none of the PC's have this issue (CEO has mac, but who cares about those?)
on the other hand, all our pc's are amd based, so, no intel chips either.

on the intel front found ppl saying about old drivers and then came across this:
http://www.velocityreviews.com/forums/t57644-wireless-connection-delay-in-windows-xp.html

in short, is your computer set to authenticate itself?
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#192477 - 2009-02-24 04:14 PM Re: Kix and Wireless [Re: Lonkero]
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Yes I have the computer set to authenticate itself, still not working
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#192481 - 2009-02-24 04:38 PM Re: Kix and Wireless [Re: tgallup]
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well, I'm out of suggestions.
just downgraded one machine from vista to xp and it had similar issues but it was because the adapter failed to get IP in timely fashion. after rebooting the access point, logonscripts ran just fine.
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