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#128833 - 2004-11-09 07:49 PM Re: U.S. Election ...
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Wonder if they got any freebies or backhanders
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#128834 - 2004-11-09 08:47 PM Re: U.S. Election ...
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Where is Argentina placed on that list Shawn? 150? BTW...Canada sounds good to live, little cold thought.
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#128835 - 2004-11-09 09:57 PM Re: U.S. Election ...
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Think Holland will loose its top ten position...

Dutch Muslim school hit by bomb

European press review

Dutch bid farewell to film maker

Dutch Islamic school set ablaze


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#128836 - 2004-11-09 10:16 PM Re: U.S. Election ...
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Btw...

Who voted Bush??

http://chrisevans3d.com/files/iq.htm
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#128837 - 2004-11-09 10:29 PM Re: U.S. Election ...
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I voted for Bush! I live in Florida and I have an IQ of 121. I am not sure where they got their numbers but I would guess that they pulled them out of their a**!
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#128838 - 2004-11-09 10:30 PM Re: U.S. Election ...
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Regardless of who voted for who those type of statistics are wonderful canon fodder for News Media, but as the saying goes:

Figures Lie, and Liars Figure

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#128839 - 2004-11-09 10:32 PM Re: U.S. Election ...
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Jose,

The best information I can find is Argentina = 34th - which aint too bad considering there are almost 180 countries.

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#128840 - 2004-11-09 10:36 PM Re: U.S. Election ...
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I drove to Buffalo and tried to vote for Bush, but they said I couldn't - idk why. fwiw, my IQ and shoe size are pretty close.

btw - if I was an American, I would have voted for Bush.

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#128841 - 2004-11-09 10:45 PM Re: U.S. Election ...
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yeah 34 aint bad, I really thought it was worst.
Thanks Quijote you the man.
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#128842 - 2004-11-09 11:38 PM Re: U.S. Election ...
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I voted for Bush as well. As far as the connection between IQ and voters...I myself dont think your IQ has much to do with how you decide who to vote for. I personally voted for bush because of the job he did immediately following 9/11/01. Still think he did a great job comforting the country following such a disaster. That and the fact that kerry seems to change his mind a bit too much. I would rather have a president that stands by his beliefs (no matter the heat he gets from it), rather than one that changes his stance to follow what the majority thinks. Other than that I didnt really care too much....and I have no idea what my IQ is, but the 3 states that ive lived in so far are ranked 14, 44, and 27. Oklahoma really dropped my average on that one.
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#128843 - 2004-11-10 12:10 AM Re: U.S. Election ...
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I don't care who you voted because in my opion it doesn't make sence who of those two is President... Only the statistics interrested me.

How about EQ and votes? Shall it have the same figures..
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#128844 - 2004-11-10 01:33 AM Re: U.S. Election ...
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Rad's comments reminded me of the following two funny things ...

In google search for "french military victories" ...

In google search for "weapons of mass destruction" ...

Its very subtle ... lol

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#128845 - 2004-11-10 02:50 AM Re: U.S. Election ...
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I voted for Bush... really for only 2 reasons.

It is a given that all politicians are underhanded, crooked, powerhungry, self-involved, etc. and as George Carlin states, the fight for the presidency is like re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

#1 real reason, it that GW drew a line in the sand and turning our back on what we started will not fix anything... In for a penny, in for a pound.

#2 real reason, anything that Michael Moore and most of Hollywood agree on, I am against. And I really disagree with the Bush is Evil and Bush is Satan lines that I saw all over the place, there should be a bit more respect for the office, if not for the man.


The last election I voted for Nader for politcal reasons. Not for his platform, but because a 3rd party would stir the pot. Our current 2 party system doesn't leave much to choose from, as most people are moderate with strong views for some things and no concern for others. We are stuck either voting against 1 or 2 items that we are opposed to, instead of a candidate that has more items that we are for.

Why is it so hard to imagine being fiscally conservative (in general), while being pro-choice, believing in a strong military, and cheaper higher education?
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#128846 - 2004-11-10 10:06 AM Re: U.S. Election ...
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Quote:

The last election I voted for Nader for politcal reasons. Not for his platform, but because a 3rd party would stir the pot. Our current 2 party system doesn't leave much to choose from, as most people are moderate with strong views for some things and no concern for others. We are stuck either voting against 1 or 2 items that we are opposed to, instead of a candidate that has more items that we are for.





I agree, In our country we have a Queen so we don't have to vote for a president. When we vote the parlement we can choose between several political parties. We can choose a listed member of a party. The winner of the elections choose the prime-minister. Most of the time it will be the leader of the winning party


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#128847 - 2004-11-10 10:09 AM Re: U.S. Election ...
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well, as long as there is politicians involved, it's not gonna go good.
you have no power in the end anyways... democratic system just gives you the feeling of it.
so, stop voting, wining and so on, as it won't save ya.
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#128848 - 2004-11-10 10:12 AM Re: U.S. Election ...
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Also true, that's why i think it doesn't make sence who won the elections....
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#128849 - 2004-11-10 10:17 AM Re: U.S. Election ...
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Of course voting makes a differnence....Didnt only 60% of the US voted? wat would of happneded it the other 40% voted?

And a bit of a harsh fact but Hitler got voted in
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#128850 - 2004-11-10 10:23 AM Re: U.S. Election ...
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OK, But Bush or Kerry are the ones who telling us there speeches but did they wrote them too? If you know what I mean...
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#128851 - 2004-11-10 11:30 AM Re: U.S. Election ...
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but don't forget the special interest groups... those are also getting voted on. If they are backing a candidate and the candidate wins, they want to get 'paid' for it with political favors.

the American Democratic systems comes down the Business Party (Republicans) vs. the Workers Party (Democrats). The most basic defination of each party is; What is good for business is good for the nation, and What is good for the workers is good for the nation. Like most things that do not live in a vacuum, the reality is somewhere in the middle.

The special interest groups are worse than that though, as they focus on their tiny little agenda with whichever party is likey to promote their agenda. So Kerry got the Pro-choice group, and Bush got the evangelical christians and the Pro-lifers... Problem is, there are dozens of theses groups pushing their agendas and they expect to be paid if their candidate wins. Things aren't that simple today, especially with the war/terrorism going on.

People need(ed) to approve a candidate that espouses a platform beyond their typical tiny focus group and most people are ignorant of the 'bigger picture'... or perhaps not since Bush won

I still believe a 3rd major party would spread around these groups, so people could vote FOR a candidate that more closely matches their beliefs, rather than AGAINST the candidate that doesn't
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#128852 - 2004-11-10 11:38 AM Re: U.S. Election ...
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and, what if 100% voted for either of them?
or only 20% voted for either of them? or 10%?

does not change the fact that either one of those dudes would have got in.
so, what the heck is the difference?
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