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#106231 - 2003-10-28 08:35 PM POLL: String Expressions
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This question deals with the use of string expressions in KiXtart v4.22 RC1.

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#106232 - 2003-10-28 08:55 PM Re: POLL: String Expressions
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what does "string expression" mean exactly?
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#106233 - 2003-10-28 09:03 PM Re: POLL: String Expressions
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"string expression" is copied directly from the KiXtart Manual. Thus, it means whatever the KiXtart Manual refers to.
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#106234 - 2003-10-28 09:38 PM Re: POLL: String Expressions
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well, lookin at manual my answer was "right"
but manual is not telling the truth there.
the limit said there is really non-existent in many string expressions in kixtart.
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#106235 - 2003-10-29 04:13 PM Re: POLL: String Expressions
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Jens,

You should explain more or maybe post the questions or maybe you should let everyone see the results. As it is now, it seems that I have to vote in order to understand the issue. Without knowing the issue I don't want to participate because I might bias your results if I found out I couldn't contribute effectively.
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#106236 - 2003-10-29 04:21 PM Re: POLL: String Expressions
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I at least know there must be 1 wrong answer according to the spreadness of the answers.
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#106237 - 2003-10-29 06:26 PM Re: POLL: String Expressions
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Jack:

I just like to know how long a string in Kixtart can be. And I'm curious whether any of the Kixtart coders actually know the correct answer.

The question is: "How many characters can a string expression contain?" with regards to KiXtart v4.22 RC1 (the one I've tested it with) and is taken literally from the KiXtart Manual but reworded to form a question.

The reason you have to vote first is to not generate a me-too result where everybody just votes for whatever the majority has voted for.

And the majority has so far voted incorrectly!
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#106238 - 2003-10-29 06:57 PM Re: POLL: String Expressions
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Jens, do you have the definitive answer? Is the answer from Ruud or from testing?
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#106239 - 2003-10-29 07:19 PM Re: POLL: String Expressions
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The funny thing is: I don't know the correct anwser either. I have a suspicion but my test script has not yet reached the stage where it could provide the definite anwser.
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#106240 - 2003-10-29 07:25 PM Re: POLL: String Expressions
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lol.
well, according to your first reply about manual, I know what manual says.
I also know that it isn't correct in all cases.
although, some limitations apply.
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#106241 - 2003-10-29 09:36 PM Re: POLL: String Expressions
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LOL2

first test results
code:
 
2
4
8
16
32
64
128
256
512
1024
2048
4096
8192
16384
32768
65536
131072
262144
524288
1048576
2097152
4194304
8388608
16777216
33554432
67108864
134217728
268435456
536870912
1073741824
-2147483648
0

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#106242 - 2003-10-29 09:44 PM Re: POLL: String Expressions
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What's that? String length of negative 2 billion characters? [Big Grin]
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#106243 - 2003-10-29 10:35 PM Re: POLL: String Expressions
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Voted according the manual.

Getting some doubts now though.
Did some googling and stumbled onto this:

http://www.dotnetforums.net/t76702.html

I know its .NET but the basics seem correct to me.
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#106244 - 2003-10-29 10:39 PM Re: POLL: String Expressions
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I know what the Manual says. I also know that some people have used code, e.g. in the KiXgolf competition, that contradicts the Manual. However, nobody has so far commented on this or even offered a new max string length.
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#106245 - 2003-10-29 10:48 PM Re: POLL: String Expressions
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auch,

hitting the int limit...

Now using doubles.

and counting...

[ 29. October 2003, 22:51: Message edited by: MightyR1 ]
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#106246 - 2003-10-29 10:59 PM Re: POLL: String Expressions
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pat, the lenght will raise like shit and what longer it gets, that slower kix will become.
just like with large arrays.

what comes to the limitation, it still holds at least with console output and some other stuff.
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#106247 - 2003-10-29 11:07 PM Re: POLL: String Expressions
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code:
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
31919
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
31920

31921

31922

My final guess: max_string_expression = 31920 characters
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#106248 - 2003-10-29 11:24 PM Re: POLL: String Expressions
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lol, you fell for that.
your quess has no base [Wink]
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#106249 - 2003-10-29 11:43 PM Re: POLL: String Expressions
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Tried this:

code:
$string1 = "1"
Do
$string1 = $string1 + 1
$rc = Len($string1)
?$rc
Until $rc = "32000"
?$string1

And stopped getting a value out of $string1 at 30704.

Patrick:
How did you get your 31920?
I guess I did sort of the same you did?

Totally different values. Maybe this is not the way to find out max string length.
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#106250 - 2003-10-29 11:46 PM Re: POLL: String Expressions
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I was playing with much larger strings and ran out of virtual memory. Kixtart never complained at all.
code:
$z="1234567890"
for $x=1 to 1024
$y=$y+$z
next
? len($y)
for $c=1 to 1024
$y=$y+$y
? len($y)
next
? len($y)



[ 29. October 2003, 23:57: Message edited by: Howard Bullock ]
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