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For a while I've been looking for a way to enable (and possibly disable) the Quick Launch bar programmatically. Any (script) language would work for me but KiX would be nicest of course. I've Googled until I got RSI but I can't seem to find a way. Even filemon and regmon got me nowhere Am I totally overlooking something or is this a special challenge for the guru's here... anyway, I've got my hope all set on you guys (and girls?). Btw.. the key is programmatically, of course I know you can do it with a right mouse click. If a logoff/logon or even a reboot is required for the change to work that would be NO problem for what I'm looking for. |
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With some Googling I found a way to disable it at least hehe.. by activating the Classic shell... HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer "ClassicShell" 1 or 0 Also via GPO: "User Configuration\Administrative Templates\Windows Components\Windows Explorer\Enable Classic Shell" EDIT Even more using Google groups: http://groups.google.se/groups?hl=sv&lr=...gp07%26rnum%3D1 |
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LOL... effective but not what I'm looking for. I actually want to turn it on (and possibly off). |
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lol, I googled a "rename hack" here: %userprofile%\Application Data\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Renamed Quick Launch We got rid of this through GPO's iirc, it was the byproduct of locking-down something else though, will advise if I find it. |
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Well then take your time and actually look at the links I provied and you'll find what you're looking for |
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Well....found this in the google groups link. It will turn of every toolbar on the taskbar. It works. Tested it on a co workers pc and he almost killed me LOL Never do testing on your own pc to keep away from fubaring it accidentally. Code:
Will search some more on how to turn just QL on and/or off. Would also like to know how to do this by script. |
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I apperently replied before the links were there but I've just read thru a load of 'solutions' but either they don't work or have to be applied to the .default user or to hkey_users while the user is not logged on. The former won't do because it wouldn't work for existing profiles, and for the latter I can't see an 'easy' way to implement that. I was hoping for a script that could be run in the user context. The search continues... |
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Disabling seems easier than enabling... apperently 'just' deleting the quick launch folder will disable it too... and I agree, never test anything potentially destructful on your own machine and along those same lines... no better test environment than your production environment |
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How about this option? Quote: http://groups.google.se/groups?q=script+....phx.gbl&rnum=8 Takes some preparations but should be easy enough to do Did not try it yet myself but will give it a go if time allows tomorrow. [edit] Added the text from google groups post. He's talking about a QuickLunch bar LOL Just mailed the guy to get a copy of the tool. [/edit] |
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A side effect of some other setting, hmmmmm..... Maybe MS implementing it into GPO would be nice. |
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No time to try that now, maybe tomorrow. But what the heck... I just looked at your profile... I worked there too (Achterklooster!) from 1994 to 2000. First as tech support and last 4 years or so as system administrator. Guess it's a small world afterall Edit: I've emailed the guy from the newsgroup too... |
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Hopefully I never have to work where you guys are Admins. I can't believe you guys take the time to CONTROL whether or not a user can have the QuickLaunch bar on his/her desktop. Perhaps in a KIOSK type of environment where a user is only allowed to run certain applications, or similar, but in a normal workplace - what does it really matter if a user has one or not? I thought IT was supposed to be an ENABLER of Technology and Support to achieve more growth for the Company, not just exercise their POWER over others. |
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Quote: LOL. Doc didn't you recently participate in this thread? Twinkle Twinkle Little Star Hmmm... what's the difference? |
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Aaron was wanting to play a joke on a fellow IT Admin I thought. Iffy doesn't say why, so one would assume that he is looking for a method to control all the Desktops which is a LOT different then playing a joke on someone. |
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Yes you are right, it's about enabling technology but that is besides the issue. First of all you do not know my users and secondly, the systems are (historically ) locked down so the start menu and taskbar for example cannot be modified. No need to either (locally) since all our apps are in a Citrix farm and nothing runs locally except a virus scanner. By default the Quick Launch bar is disabled on WinXP, I want to GIVE the users the Quick Launch bar as I can see it's value in some cases. So guess I'm the hero afterall and we can start working together |
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Not meaning anything personal - just seemed like a rather draconian approach to IT Support without all the details. Well have not researched this specific issue, but here are some links to other similar issues I was able to come up with when no one else had come up with a solution. taskmgr - automating "hide when minimized" http://www.kixtart.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB14&Number=116018 ModifyStartMenu() http://www.kixtart.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=82899 |
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Totally off topic (sorry about that ) but if you worked there until 2000 then I'm the guy that took up the challenge when you left. So you must be Rene or Alex I think Unfortunately no word from the MS guy yet about the tool he mentioned. Doc has a point there but like said users are strange creatures wanting the most weird things from the admins and each environment has it's own needs. Had no time to dive into this issue for the last few days. You gotten somewhere yet iffy? |
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Sorry, haven't had time to really test it either. The links looks promising tho, but will probably need some work. And off topic: yup, it's me, Alex, perhaps I should give ya a call sometime and we'll have a beer "on the good old days" |
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Quote: Will see if I get some time to test next week. Little difficult but will se if there is an opportunity. BTW: I'm always in for a beer. You know the number (if not just drop me a message) it was yours once |
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Hi guys, I've contacted Microsoft via phone and e-mail, and this morning received the tool mentioned in the earlier post. But, attaching a file to a post is not possible, so I'm not sure how to post it yet. I'll be back. |
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If it is freeware and can be distributed for free by MS rules and regulations then you could put it on a web server and post a link here. |
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Well, you tell me; this is how things went; I sent an e-mail asking for the tool to enable the quick launch via logon script, and simply received this reply with the attachment: Quote: Since there are no rules or reservations specified in the mail, and the nature of the tool is very simple, I don't see why it would not be freely distributable. |
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Jeroen: You already sent me a PM about this, as long as they didn't tell you you can't distribute it (and it sounds like they didn't), then yes, we can host it. Looel: Can you park it on KORG for download? |
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Quote: Doc, I totally agree with you. Unfortunately I've to defend myself most of time when this is discussed. In my opinion you have to fit IT into your organisation instead of fit your organisation into IT... |
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Oh well... at least he didn't compare you to Hitler... |
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Just kidding there DOC. Those Yanks are kinda sensitive about their civil liberties and "pursuit of happiness, yada yada" |
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LOL - No problem Les. The only thing we seem to be in pursuit of these days is the key to preventing Telemarketers from calling ever day. |
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FYI: I've sent it to jooel via e-mail. |
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got it. thanks. will try to reverse engineer it later. |
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can't receive no exe attachments dude. |
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think you need a new e-mail provider Yeah, used to be easy but now days most freebie and Corporate e-mail severs just won't forward a list of potentially executable files on a Windows system. |
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Jeroen, make it a .txt... |
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sure I could get it from the server if I opened it with some oddball client but outlook won't allow it. |
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as jeroen hasn't answered, I removed exe from the disallowed attachment list to get my hands on the exe. it doesn't work. as a matter of fact, the exe did nothing. loaded the usual dlls and then exited. |
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Jooel, I've sent it earlier today as "toggleql_rename_this_to_exe.doc". The syntax is: "toggleql.exe 1" to switch quicklaunch on, "toggleql.exe 0" to switch quicklaunch off. It works fine on both my machines here. |
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ja. doesn't work here. which language you have in your OS? and does the path to your quicklaunch folder contain scandinavian letters? |
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Guys, could one of you mail the exe to MightyR1 at hotmail dot com. I'd like to give it a try. |
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Thanks Jooel, will give it a try and let you guys know. |
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Works @ home: WXPpro UK |
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doesn't work with: w2k sp4, finnish |
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Was probably designed for XP and 2K probably has different keys than XP. But, could very well be that it is only supported on English systems. |
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jeroen, could you email back to the guy who sent the file? I saw someone else got it from MS too but there is no real knowledge on the net about it. what I would like to know is does it use the sendkeys method or does it write stuff to the stream value or is there indeed some hidden api call that everyone has failed to find? |
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Can I get a copy? E-mail addy is in my profile. |
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Quote: For me the same... Thanks in advance |
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Another hit: http://www.windowsitpro.com/Article/ArticleID/47605/47605.html So it seems since the binary HKCU value is already loaded into memory when the user logs in, and written back from there when logging out, it has to be written either when the user's logged off into the HKEY_USERS\-GUID- section, or put as a startup/run once thing before the user logs on. |
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masken, well. it surely can be clicked, thus, it can be done too. |
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Quote: It works on a WinXP (english) OS and it doesn't on a Win2K (english) Server |
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jeroen, could you please mail back to the ms guy asking for something that works with w2k? |
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Sorry for the late response! I've mailed the guy at ms, when I get an answer, I'll let you know. I've only tested the tool on WinXP as well since that was what I needed it for, so I guess it's quite possible that it's only for WinXP. When I have more info, you'll hear from me. In the mean time, the WinXP version can be downloaded using the link below. It remains active only as long as the file is downloaded at least once a month or so, so if it disappears you can send a PM or something and I'll put it up there again. Get the file here |
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This is very nasty but works nonetheless... Code:
replace the sendkey "s" with a Q for dutch os's. |
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And it has some trouble with XP in other languages then English. |
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what's wrong with putting it as a start-up script and under default user? |
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FYI: Still have not received a reply from the MS guy. I doubt an answer will follow. Should I receive an answer, I'll post again. |