MCA
(KiX Supporter)
2003-02-06 12:50 AM
BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

Dear members,

We have finally implement the new statistics. Statistics which have a relation with
the kixtart.org site.
Now we are using active posts instead of profile information for our reports.
Also we are going back to the beginning.

The previous statistics page has been replaced with
BB-info and BB Statistics pages.
Each page contains sub-pages.
Current structure
code:
     BB info
kixtart FAQ (summary & mirror report of 'FAQ' forum (http://kixtart.org))
kixtart UDF (summary & mirror report of 'UDF' forum (http://kixtart.org))
Scriptlogic UDF (summary & mirror report of 'UDF' forum (http://www.scriptlogic.com/kixtart))
BB index (complete forum index of 'http://kixtart.org' site. size about 1.2 MB)
BB specials (summary report of 'http://kixtart.org' members)
BB statistics
BB overview
BB overview details (details per month, per day, per 3-hour and per weekday. based on active posts)
BB history
BB user history
BB top25 part I (per month, no cumulation. based on active posts)
BB top25 part II (per month with cumulation per year. based on active posts)
BB top25 summary
- per year, no cumulation. based on active posts of registered membered.
- also for period 1999..2003 complete reports based on active posts of unregistered and registered members and based on profile
information.
BB mm club (details per month, per 3-hour and per weekday for all members with over 1.000 posts. based on active posts)

All feedback, questions and comment are still welcome.
greetings.

btw: updating once a month.


MCA
(KiX Supporter)
2003-03-03 05:57 AM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

Dear,

The statistics about February 2003 are now available.
New on the BB overview subpage is: which topics was the 1000th.
greetings.


NTDOCAdministrator
(KiX Master)
2003-03-03 08:22 PM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

Thanks again for all the details MCA

Hope boss don't look at details too much. [Eek!]


JochenAdministrator
(KiX Supporter)
2003-03-03 08:25 PM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

'THEY' are tracking us anyway [Eek!] [Big Grin]

[ 03. March 2003, 20:38: Message edited by: jpols ]


Jack Lothian
(MM club member)
2003-03-03 08:45 PM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

Thanks for the good work. [Cool]

Kdyer
(KiX Supporter)
2003-03-04 02:20 PM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

MCA,

Good information!

However, I am interested in some more detail or explaination of -

http://home.wanadoo.nl/scripting/bb-user-history.htm

user information 1999..2003 (by profile information)

>> What does this mean?

Thanks,

Kent

[ 04. March 2003, 14:49: Message edited by: kdyer ]


MCA
(KiX Supporter)
2003-03-05 10:05 PM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

Dear,

We also hope it contains some interesting information.
On kdyer we can tell
quote:

it is based on the actual profile numbers. Each month shows how much new
numbers were issuing. F.e. 200302 7.071 155 tells us that the profile-
number 7.071 is the latest profile number of specified month.

greetings.

btw: to make this part more clear we have downgrade profilenumbers with one. also
it shows now in temrs of percentage.


MCA
(KiX Supporter)
2003-04-01 12:02 AM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

Dear,

Your contributions for month March has been finished.
Yet collect those information and process them.

Question: who will be second and third in our MM club based on active posts?
Answer: soon. we hope today to put everything on our site.

greetings.


MCA
(KiX Supporter)
2003-04-10 01:02 AM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

Dear,

The latest statistics are online.
Remarkable things:
- sealeopard gets second position on our TOP25 list. based on profile and active posts list.
also he is still the biggest poster this year.
- Sunday 30 March was very quiet. No new topics, no new posts.
- Monday and Tuesday are for the first time the most active days in a week.
- the amount of reactions is growing again (February 2003 - 3.195, March 2003 - 3.925)
- the amount of new topics has been decreased (February 2003 - 343, March 2003 - 296)
- general forum (F14) is growing very fast.
- some guys will enter the TOP100 member list.
- the biggest pictures you can find in the topics F13-423, F13-442 & F10-50
- after nearly three years Shawn isn't a member of our TOP3 list. Not a pity,
but the competition is enormous. In the beginning it was enough to post a
small amount of reactions. Now anybody must posts nearly 5000 reactions to
become such TOP3 member.

greetings.

{edit: Shawn position}

[ 10. April 2003, 04:30: Message edited by: MCA ]


LonkeroAdministrator
(KiX Master Guru)
2003-04-12 06:38 PM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

mca, just found a problem with the active posts too.

once someone deletes a topic (mod or starter) that removes posts from active posts.
which is ofcourse correct as those are not active anymore.

but, the actual postcount of a person basically is something between profile count and active posts.


MCA
(KiX Supporter)
2003-04-13 11:14 PM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

Dear,

It isn't a problem. We are collecting new and updated topics from last month.
The information on earlier months are fixating. The active posts show the a-
mount of posts by ending a month.
We just eliminate BUMPs and mistypos.

greetings.


Kdyer
(KiX Supporter)
2003-04-14 04:21 AM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

MCA,

"Most Interesting Topics"

ABC's of KiXtart board etiquette

INFO: Moderator's message to new forum users

Guidelines for the UDF-section

??

These don't really qualify in that category do they?

Kent


LonkeroAdministrator
(KiX Master Guru)
2003-04-14 07:09 AM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

like said, you also eliminate the posts that were correctly typed but removed by topic author or by mod by deleting a topic.

just couple of weeks ago one of these took place when the author was too ashamed about the question.
he just deleted the topic and thus all the replies in it.

{edit}
yet, I'm not saying that the active-topics is wrong.
it's correct as it can correct be.
although, the meaning of the count was little fuzzy.

[ 14. April 2003, 07:19: Message edited by: Lonkero ]


LonkeroAdministrator
(KiX Master Guru)
2003-04-14 07:12 AM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

what comes to the interesting topics.
these topics might be qualified by the fact that they have high reader count.

or at least, we mods would like it to be so [Wink]

not sure how they ended up there but as they are good to read topics, I don't care either [Big Grin]


MCA
(KiX Supporter)
2003-04-17 12:18 AM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

Dear,

The most interesting topics is based on topics, which people should read
before starting using "kixtart.org" forums. It are the topics members
want to see on the main page of the "kixtart.org" site.
It will be a wrong choose, when we point to specific topics at all. Some
of you love the FAQ, COM, Kixforms stuff and others like to see a good
script of tips/trick. Our personal choose for such topic isn't interesting
at all.

Same policy to mention which mirrors are available.

Jooel, of course it was and is always the problem that someone (author or
moderator) is deleting his post. The big advances against previous method
(information based of profile information) is that the information is more
correct.
Of course it will be more correct, when we extract to complete forums each
month again. But there are some problems with it
- extraction of about 750MB cost an enormous amount of time. During that
process someone can delete posts at the same moment.
- currently we see about 5 - 10 topics per month, which are moving to an-
other forum. To solve possible problems with duplicates is much easier.
- amount of time to present the proper information will cost more time,
when f.e. only one very old post was removed. So each time our 1.000th post,
1.000th topic and 500th member lists needs a review.

Currently
- we eliminate duplicates after moving posts to another forum.
- moment of collecting information isn't important for our information. previously
it was very important, that we did this at the first hours of new month.
- we eliminate, that people trying to get a higher position with BUMPing
topics. BUMP operation shouldn't be see as real input.
- we return more details about members.

greetings.


Les
(KiX Master)
2003-04-17 01:35 AM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

MCA,
I take exception to your statement:
quote:
- we eliminate, that people trying to get a higher position with BUMPing
topics. BUMP operation shouldn't be see as real input.

I do NOT bump topics to increase my post count and am quite certain that is NOT anyones intention whenever topics are bumped.

What's next? Will you rate the value of replies and discount those from their post count that fall below your standard?

Post count is not a good measure of our contributions. Between my ramblings, Jooel talking to himself, and Jens' RTFMs, our post counts are dubious at best. Oh, that and your propensity to dredge up years old posts that probably should be left to lay in their grave.


MCA
(KiX Supporter)
2003-04-17 02:11 AM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

Dear Les,

It wasn't pointed to any member at all. With this statement - possible we select the
wrong words - we emphasize we are counting only the active posts in specific month.

Also we will not interpretate the content of everybodies input.
Also post count isn't dubious at all. The statistics shows that this board is
very active around the clock, that is the input.
Of course we don't claim at all that our input has always the same quality.

Our goal with the statistics is to show accurate information only, but don't forget
that there is a long way to go between a topic page and our results.
greetings.


Jack Lothian
(MM club member)
2003-04-17 07:59 PM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

Long day Les? [Big Grin]

MCA your stats are great but we shouldn't get too caught up in details. For me, I see post counts as an indication of participation & contibution to the board in general. Quantifying the intent or quality of these posts is pointless in my opinion. All posts contribute. [Smile]


MCA
(KiX Supporter)
2003-05-01 12:36 AM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

Dear,

Your contributions for month April has been finished.
Yet collect those information and process them.

Question 1: which user with lowest postcount has relative highest ranking.
Answer: Ruud van Velsen, that great guy.

Question 2: who has highest 'bumping' counter.
Answer: soon we will return this answer.

greetings.


Kdyer
(KiX Supporter)
2003-05-01 12:53 AM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

MCA,

While not widely known, I also host a FAQ Mirror -

http://kentldyer.com/menu.htm

It is updated each Saturday.

Thanks,

Kent


MCA
(KiX Supporter)
2003-05-01 01:03 AM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

Dear,

See our signature.
greetings.


LonkeroAdministrator
(KiX Master Guru)
2003-05-01 05:05 PM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

like already said before, that bumbing is not right word for non-active posts.

Les
(KiX Master)
2003-05-01 05:24 PM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

I don't understand MCA's obsession with post counts. There are the stats that the board returns that includes all posts, even those that have been deleted. MCA crawls the site and counts the number of posts that have not been deleted. The net difference is the now infamous "bump count". Some members, but mostly moderators will "bump" a topic to the top by posting a reply to it and then deleting it. That is true "bumping".

I will often post to a thread and then later delete it, not to "bump" the thread, but rather to keep the content cleaner. My board count will vary from MCA's by the number of true "bumps" and the number of replies I (or others) have deleted. Also, I should note that other moderators have deleted some of my posts as well.

Personally, I don't really care if the board count does not match MCA's, but I do care if MCA accuses anyone of deliberately inflating their post count.


Jack Lothian
(MM club member)
2003-05-01 05:58 PM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

Les,

Because MCA's first language is not english, sometimes he comes across as gruff, abrupt, and negative when he doesn't really intend that. I suspect that he didn't intended his remark to be interpretated this way.

While I don't share MCA's obvious enjoyment of statistical & numerical analysis, I do like his site & I think he adds a dimension to the board that would be missed.

MCA,

I don't think "bumping" is a good term for these missing posts since they can result from other actions. Why not refer to them as "deleted" posts or "missing" posts. Call them what they are & I think there will be less controversy.


Les
(KiX Master)
2003-05-01 08:50 PM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

Jack,
You needn't come to MCA's defense. He can defend himself. I don't get the impression that "he comes across as gruff, abrupt, and negative when he doesn't really intend that". I on the other hand, do come across as gruff, abrupt, and negative and often do intend that.

quote:
Question 2: who has highest 'bumping' counter.
Answer: soon we will return this answer.

My bet is that the one with the highest "bump" count is also a significant contributor (not like me).


LonkeroAdministrator
(KiX Master Guru)
2003-05-01 08:57 PM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

well I know highest bumb volume top5 already.
I see that MCA is going to release that info too.

but, as known, that value MCA is going to release is not true if said to be as bumbing.

as the bumbers have also deleted posts by others means.

and...
I can understand jacks comments but I think les is right on this one.
doesn't matter what MCA's intension was, his new listing will bring up the word: "who has highest volume of bad replies/posts"

thus this ranking is not good as it will not give credit to the persons but will create opposite feelings.


LonkeroAdministrator
(KiX Master Guru)
2003-05-01 09:13 PM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

also, this kindoff hit list would need to have a postcount relative.

like percents of postcount thus making known the relevance of noobie bumbing and high poster having real loosed posts.


Sealeopard
(KiX Master)
2003-05-01 09:15 PM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

Can somebody fill me in as to why we need to know wwho's bumping what, or deleting their posts? Apart from the fact, that it is technically possibel to create this particular statistic, what's the benefit of it? I do see the value in the other stats, though.

Jack Lothian
(MM club member)
2003-05-01 09:18 PM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

Les,

I agree with all your points except the one about you intending to be negative. Gruff yes, but rarely negative. [Big Grin]

What MCA is calling bumping is not really bumping. I have bumped a topic to the top on several occasions by generating a reply with no comment & I don't think MCA's stat counts this as a bump. On the other hand, I have deleted topics where I decided my contribution added nothing & I believe MCA's stat would call this bumping. Also, doesn't the profile post count also include the personal messages passed through the board? If so, doesn't this muddy the waters significantly?

Because of a number of factors, I believe enumerating the "biggest bumpers" [Wink] is specious & irrelevant.

The post count that MCA prefers might be more rightly called "current accessible posts". There is an implication that non accessible historical posts should not be counted.

In the end Les, I think we are coming from the same place. ie. All posts are positive contributions in some manner so why not accept the literal count stored in the profile.

PS: Jooel, I didn't feel that I was disagreeing with Les but we do have a tendency to give the appearance that we are disagreeing even when we support the same point of view. [Roll Eyes]

[ 01. May 2003, 21:24: Message edited by: Jack Lothian ]


LonkeroAdministrator
(KiX Master Guru)
2003-05-01 09:18 PM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

no, it's not technically possible currently to show the stats of bumbers.

Les
(KiX Master)
2003-05-01 09:24 PM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

If I Google "biggest bumpers", I get at least one interesting hit. [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

Jack Lothian
(MM club member)
2003-05-01 09:31 PM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

Les,

I will have to take your word for it. I suspect if I tried this google search, I might receve a nasty note from security. [Eek!]


Kdyer
(KiX Supporter)
2003-05-01 10:48 PM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

ditto

MCA
(KiX Supporter)
2003-05-02 03:37 AM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

Dear,

Indeed people could think in another direction, when we call it "bumping" counter.
Jack returns the exact explanation for it. It is the result of "missing" posts,
but all the feedback shows that choosing a correct name can be very hard. So
"bumping" counter is more than "missing" posts (see later).

Just by choosing our name for it enough people are interesting. At least our input
returns enough positive feedback to get a proper list (see later reactions).

Les, we don't mean any negative with our "bumping" counter. We don't accuses anyone.
To prevent it we will use another name for it. Just adding such list prevents that
other persons must do the calculations which is already possible. All required infor-
mation for our "missing post"-list is already available on our statistical pages
(in our version: only people with over 100 posts can become a member of it).
It was just inspired when Jens and you are trying (at least it looks like a neck-and-neck
race) to get and to keep the second position on our active postcounter lists, but his
speed was already enormous this year.
Inspired, when we see a big differences between the two of you. Of course it doesn't mean,
that "missing"/"deleted" posts aren't relevant contributions.

Jooel, you are right. The missing posts counter is a combination of deleted and bumping
posts. We can't see which of the two was choosing. The problem becomes even harder,
when other people (= moderators can do it with a very good reason) are deleting someone's
posts. Also when we had to deal with the influence of private message's it makes this
issue more complex.
So Jack's suggestion is a very good one.
Of course the postcount must be a relative one. Also a good suggestion.
Since the latest upgrade of our statistical pages we make sometimes some small extensions
to it. For an easier way of reading. For making trends much easier to see.

About a definitive name we find again a new obstacle. The available posts on moderator
forum
are inaccessible and invisible for normal members, but we include them in our
"active post counter" lists.
We have the intentsion to can call it the "inaccessible" list.
Other suggestions?
greetings.


MCA
(KiX Supporter)
2003-05-07 06:33 PM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

Dear,

We have update our statistical pages. The inaccessible list isn't included
at this moment. We will publish it as a post entry.

Amazing was the very low about of posts during April 2003. Only 2.629 entries and 255 new topics.

greetings.

(our reaction 4600+ to the board)

[ 12. May 2003, 10:55: Message edited by: MCA ]


Kdyer
(KiX Supporter)
2003-05-07 06:42 PM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

MCA,

While your statistics are great.. Are there any Web Logs that we can view? Something like that of WebTrends, or Analog?

Kent


MCA
(KiX Supporter)
2003-05-07 07:11 PM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

Dear,
No, greetings.


Kdyer
(KiX Supporter)
2003-05-07 07:30 PM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

Correct me if I am wrong.. I thought Henri showed us the page hits per month. I don't have the site in front me. We were seeing about 60,000 hits a month (probably off).

Kent


MCA
(KiX Supporter)
2003-05-10 12:43 AM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

Dear,

Indeed some pages on the kixtart.org are pointing to some statistical information.
F.e. on the main-page you will find the related nedstat icon.
greetings.


MCA
(KiX Supporter)
2003-08-20 04:42 AM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

Dear,

The information of last period has been included in our statistical pages (BB info + BB statistics).

Some remarks
  • the amount of reactions is growing again.
  • the amount of reactions by none TOP25 members is growing also.
  • during the last months we receive a lot of alerts about unreachability of this site.
  • general discussions forum is growing very fast. Within one year it contains over 1.000 topics.
  • UDF forum is receiving still a great amount of new UDF's.
  • Chris S. is a new member of our BB MM club page.
  • Lonkero is going for the 10.000 reactions coming months. Good luck.
greetings.


btw: a delay in releasing those info by personal circumstances. Sorry, when you were waiting
for it.
Also we had miss the third Anniversary of our site. Thanks for all your input, comments and questions.


LonkeroAdministrator
(KiX Master Guru)
2003-08-20 11:29 AM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

DDavidson is something to note too.
he has managed to keep himself in top25 without posting a single post in last 13 months!


MCA
(KiX Supporter)
2003-08-20 11:42 AM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

Dear,

In the earlier days of this board you was the biggest poster with his count.
Only the active members can beat his counter.
In our BB specials list he will never removed. You must create only 100 reactions.
Last period we get four new 100-club members.
The same static position gets someone, when he becomes a MM-club member.
greetings.


MCA
(KiX Supporter)
2003-10-15 04:08 AM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

Dear,

The information about the months August and September has been added
(BB info + BB statistics).

Some remarks
  • member Lonkero was passing the 10.000 post counter.
  • there are now over 15.000 topics.
  • there are now over 100.000 posts. Bryce hit that special counter.
  • the amount of posts was growing last month, but the year 2002 will stay the booming
    year.
  • the workload between 21:00-03:00 is growing. Sunday and Saturday are the quiest moments.
  • the general forum becomes second one for new topics.
  • the UDF forum contains now over 400 UDF's.
greetings.

[ 15. October 2003, 04:39: Message edited by: MCA ]


LonkeroAdministrator
(KiX Master Guru)
2003-10-15 04:13 AM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

the udf count is not correct.
you have calculated also topics that are not UDFs

thanks for the long waited info though!


MCA
(KiX Supporter)
2003-10-15 04:38 AM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

Thanks. We correct that remark.
greetings.


LonkeroAdministrator
(KiX Master Guru)
2003-10-15 09:51 AM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

hmm... looking at top78 I see it's not updated.
any timetable for tha?


MCA
(KiX Supporter)
2003-10-16 12:04 AM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

Thanks. The information were updated, but we forgot to update the date field.
Done.
greetings.


LonkeroAdministrator
(KiX Master Guru)
2003-10-16 12:08 AM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

not sure we talk about same page:
http://home.wanadoo.nl/scripting/bb-specials.htm

looked from here with usernumber and name.
no match for user with about 125 posts and active even today.
not sure though, are these based on profile info or actual?


MCA
(KiX Supporter)
2003-10-16 12:14 AM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

Dear,

We are talking indeed about the bb-specials page. This information is based on
the profile information of October 1st. So, when someone add a lot of posts last days he
a member of that list next month. Also the actual list is based on those information. Each
month we create a list of TOP100 members to monitor.
greetings.

btw: about which member we are talking in your case.


LonkeroAdministrator
(KiX Master Guru)
2003-10-16 12:29 AM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

I quessed you might be interested.
talking aboot co.
indeed he has been lately active after being "dead" for some time.


LonkeroAdministrator
(KiX Master Guru)
2003-10-16 12:32 AM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

k, looked at his posts and indeed 40 of those has been created in this month.
125-40=less than 100
which seems to be the limit on the top 78 list.


MCA
(KiX Supporter)
2003-10-16 12:58 AM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

Dear,

Co was also very active in changing his display name. We reduce it to two unique
ones.
greetings.


MCA
(KiX Supporter)
2003-10-15 02:28 PM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

Dear,

We reformat the user information a little bit.
It shows how big portion TOPxx members have and also it shows how
much posts those TOPxx members has created.
Interesting issue is that our number one member has posted over 10% of all posts.

code:
	users   8.093 (based on profile info 1 October 2003)
posts 102.726
posts sum percent
1 Lonkero 10.488 10.488 10,21%
2 sealeopard 7.039 17.527 17,06%
3 LLigetfa 5.974 23.501 22,88%
4 Shawn 5.328 28.829 28,06%
5 MCA 4.729 33.558 32,67%
6 Howard Bullock 4.102 37.660 36,66%
7 kdyer 3.771 41.431 40,33%
8 Jochen 3.537 44.968 43,77%
9 NTDOC 3.370 48.338 47,06%
10 Radimus 3.251 51.589 50,22%
11 Bryce 2.000 53.589 52,17%
12 Richard H. 1.329 54.918 53,46%
13 Chris S. 1.206 56.124 54,63%
14 cj 982 57.106 55,59%
15 Jack Lothian 979 58.085 56,54%
16 MightyR1 970 59.055 57,49%
17 BrianTX 895 59.950 58,36%
18 DrillSergeant 616 60.566 58,96%
19 kholm 579 61.145 59,52%
20 bleonard 567 61.712 60,07%
21 Waltz 485 62.197 60,55%
22 masken 473 62.670 61,01%
23 Austin 425 63.095 61,42%
24 Alex.H 402 63.497 61,81%
25 DDavidson 379 63.876 62,18%
....
30 Paul_Berquam 285 65.428 63,69%
40 krabourn 198 67.870 66,07%
50 Fuse 168 69.717 67,87%
60 novastar 135 71.245 69,35%
70 Ruud van Velsen 119 72.511 70,59%
80 Kir@ 99 73.594 71,64%
90 Kellar 87 74.519 72,54%
100 brewdude6 75 75.326 73,33%

greetings.


MCA
(KiX Supporter)
2003-11-04 06:53 AM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

Dear,

The new information about October 2003 is available.

Interesting things
- two new MM-club members. members with also a long history on this board.
- the amount of posts/topics is decreasing instead of increasing. Possible, that not only the weekends can be slow.
- a lot of guys are changing their display name on very frequent base.
- some guys are refinding this board after a long period of absent.

greetings.

[ 04. November 2003, 06:54: Message edited by: MCA ]


cj
(MM club member)
2003-11-27 02:27 PM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

I still haven't hit 1k - what's with that?!



cj


Co
(MM club member)
2003-11-27 03:16 PM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

Quote:

Dear,

Co was also very active in changing his display name. We reduce it to two unique
ones.
greetings.




I don't know what you are talking about???
Since 2000 my displayname is CO. I only changed it a few months ago from CO to Co.

My kixforms account Co was or is still locked and i created a new one: Cootje.



Jack Lothian
(MM club member)
2003-11-27 04:28 PM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

Co,

MCA's english somtimes looses something during translation. I suspect he meant that you were an active poster & you changed your name recently.

PS: Amazing, Jooel has 10% of the posts on the board & close to 20% of the posts by the MM club. I knew Jooel loves to talk but seeing it in black & white, kind of shocks you.

Jooel,

During the current period of slow posts you are single handedly keeping the board a float. Keep up the good work.


Les
(KiX Master)
2003-11-27 04:46 PM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

MCA,
Waddup with this MM thing? MM is roman numerals for 2000 and as such would limit membership. When members first exceeded the 1000 mark, we called it the Millenium club, when they exceeded 2000, the MM club was formed. Somewhere along the line the use of MM got misused.


MCA
(KiX Supporter)
2003-11-27 04:46 PM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)

Dear Co,

Changing in display name was very frequent. Each time you were changing CO -> Co, Co -> co, co ->Co, etc. our program detected.
When we ignore upper- and lowercase, then you haven't change your display name at all.
greetings.

btw: per 1 December 2003 there will not be an actual update of our statistics. we are working on processing the new layout of this board.


Co
(MM club member)
2003-11-27 08:47 PM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now availabl

MMM, That change must be done in 5 minutes: CO -> cO -> co -> Co C

Jack: About MCA's english.. We are talking the same language.. So I think we have the same translation problems.. I can't blame him or they about this, I think his/their english is better than mine

. What about that we talking.. Are there more than one MCA's??

Lonkero: I work for an IT company which detach me to different companies: one month here, two years there.. It means that I don't use Kix all the time to do my job. So when I'm "dead" for a while I'm busy with other things...


LonkeroAdministrator
(KiX Master Guru)
2003-11-28 12:23 AM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now availabl

don't think that time counts there.
afaik, MCA's data is collected per post.
so every time your displayname is different when you have posted, his collector detects it.
if you play around with your name (like I did about a month ago) it does not realize it.


MCA
(KiX Supporter)
2003-11-28 03:07 AM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now availabl

Dear,

Lonkero describes exactly the process "how we detect display name changes".

MCA is one person and not a big group at all. In the past it was already a discussion.
So, when we are going on vacation or doing other things with computers you will not see any update of our site,
you will get any feedback on mail or you will not read any new posts during those periods.
greetings.


Mart
(KiX Supporter)
2003-11-28 03:29 AM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now availabl

Quote:


MCA is one person and not a big group at all. In the past it was already a discussion.
So, when we are going on vacation........





OK that makes it a lot clearer.
You're talking about "We" a lot so that makes it a little confusing to others.


MCA
(KiX Supporter)
2003-11-28 05:14 AM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now availabl

Dear,

Also in our personal posts we are using we. Very incidential we are you I. It
is just a way of doing.
greetings.


Co
(MM club member)
2003-11-28 06:11 AM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now availabl

Strange... I cann't remember it at all that I have change my displayname so much... Or is there an otherone and do I have to talk also in a plural way

MCA
(KiX Supporter)
2003-11-28 06:55 AM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now availabl

Dear,

The complete extraction of it
Code:

(info-user) 01373 Co -> CO
(info-user) 01373 Co -> CO
(info-user) 01373 CO -> Co
(info-user) 01373 Co -> CO
(info-user) 01373 CO -> Co
(info-user) 01373 Co -> CO
(info-user) 01373 CO -> Co
(info-user) 01373 CO -> Co
(info-user) 01373 Co -> CO
(info-user) 01373 Co -> CO
(info-user) 01373 CO -> Co
(info-user) 01373 Co -> CO
(info-user) 01373 CO -> Co
(info-user) 01373 CO -> Co
(info-user) 01373 CO -> Co
(info-user) 01373 CO -> Co
(info-user) 01373 Co -> CO
(info-user) 01373 CO -> Co
(info-user) 01373 Co -> CO
(info-user) 01373 Co -> CO
(info-user) 01373 Co -> CO
(info-user) 01373 CO -> Co
(info-user) 01373 CO -> Co
(info-user) 01373 Co -> CO
(info-user) 01373 Co -> CO
(info-user) 01373 CO -> Co
(info-user) 01373 CO -> Co
(info-user) 01373 Co -> CO
(info-user) 01373 Co -> CO
(info-user) 01373 Co -> CO
(info-user) 01373 CO -> Co


During each post we verify it.
greetings.


Co
(MM club member)
2003-11-28 08:06 AM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now availabl

Hmm well I'm an Systems Engineer.. When a user saaid the same things like I did, I'll show him/her a logfile too and say that a logfile cann't lie..

Like I said before I changed CO to Co and maybe because of a typo I changed it to co and after that I correct it to Co. But this must be done in 5 to 10 minutes. What means that only one or two posts should show an other displayname.

I'm not sure if it is possible and maybe you can check it by ip address. I never shutdown my workstation at work and never shut it down at home. If both are logged on to www.kixtart.org and I changed the displayname at one of them. Could it be that both sessions register a different displayname when i post or reply a topic?

What about a changed displaynames statistic?


Co
(MM club member)
2003-11-29 09:33 AM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now availabl

I can change my displayname.. If I want 30 times from CO to Co and back... But I cann't change my member number...
1373 -> 1165

Quote:

Email
Member # 1165
Name Co
Title Member
Total Posts 229
Rating
Homepage
Occupation Systems Engineer (MCSE+I NT4, MCSE W2K)
Hobbies Cycling, Skiing, Speedskating, autosports, etc
Location Zaandam, The Netherlands
Bio
ICQ Number
Registered on 20/11/2000 12:00




MCA
(KiX Supporter)
2003-11-29 10:24 AM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now availabl

Dear Co,

During the migration from UBB.Classic into UBB.Threads each member profile gets a new profile number. It is something,
which nobody can change. Our information was on previous layout and each profile number was unique regardless
which display name was using.
greetings.


Co
(MM club member)
2003-11-29 10:44 AM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now availabl

MCA,

That's clear..
What about the two sessions. Is it possible?


LonkeroAdministrator
(KiX Master Guru)
2003-11-29 07:01 PM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now availabl

no, I think more obvious reason is that MCA collects the info per forum.
so, if you do posts in many forums with say 2 display names, those can come up to 100... that is if you post enough

well, that only can occur if his displaynames are not mapped by time.


MCA
(KiX Supporter)
2003-11-30 09:57 AM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now availabl

Dear,

There is a differents between how we are collecting those information and how we are processing it. Before
processing all post entries are sorting first on registering number and seondly on topic number. Processing it
this was necessary, when a few guys wee changing the display name.
Based on Co's question we analyze the flow of it again.
greetings.


LonkeroAdministrator
(KiX Master Guru)
2003-11-30 03:33 PM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now availabl

yep, topic number.
but in ubb.classic those numbers are forum based.


MCA
(KiX Supporter)
2003-11-30 03:41 PM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now availabl

Dear,

For the way we are processing that forum number is inrelevant. Also forum number is relevant, when
we were calculating which member was posting i.e. 100.000 on this board.
greetings.


Les
(KiX Master)
2003-11-30 04:06 PM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now availabl

Quote:

For the way we are processing that forum number is inrelevant



I think the direction this topic has turned is irrelevant! What a waste of board resources to keep carrying on about the fact a name changed from CO to co? WHO CARES! If I were moderator of this forum I would abuse my power and close this thread to save everyone the misery of reading this banter.

Let's get back on topic.


Jack Lothian
(MM club member)
2003-12-01 04:13 PM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now availabl

Les,

Testy today.

PS: At least they are using the correct forum for this type of discussion.


Co
(MM club member)
2003-12-01 08:02 PM
Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now availabl

Yep Jack, I agree.. and Les should know that
..and as long people replies to this "irrelevant" topic it remains at the top of this forum...