Lonkero
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| 2002-12-02 12:19 AM |
tabstop/setfocus/enabled - kixforms button weirdness
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shawn, direct this here as seems to be only place to catch you.
I have 2 buttons where the other one is default and the other one has tabstop=1
after user pressing with mouse on that keyboard-disabled button, there is no way I can direct the tab focus from the button.
I've tried all the things I can imagine.
as I 4 months already stated, tryied then with setfocus, that sets the focus to elsewhere but the black border around the tabstopped button remains.
then next one was to disable the button setfocus elsewhere and enable. no can do.
same effect with hide/show.
next one was to change the event to onmouseup which neither helped.
then saw something weird while testing with almost all these combined and setfocus shooted almost everywhere:
the border goes away on every second click.
so, on first one appears and on disappears
![[Eek!]](images/icons/shocked.gif){kind=icon}
is there any solution foundable or am I trying to accomplish something unpossible?
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Jochen
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| 2002-12-01 09:07 PM |
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Re: tabstop/setfocus/enabled - kixforms button weirdness
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As always Joeel , add a snippet of code !
I had this problem too (for example one can't make a button default and Enable cancel(ESC) on it the same time !)
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Jochen
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| 2002-12-02 09:16 AM |
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Re: tabstop/setfocus/enabled - kixforms button weirdness
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Jooel,
how about a short sample ? No ?
Hello ???
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Lonkero
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| 2002-12-02 09:20 AM |
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I hate these samples as they need always some code.
and to make the sample for everything used, well the board has no power to handle such a post
![[Wink]](images/icons/wink.gif){kind=icon}
wait a sec.
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Jochen
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| 2002-12-02 09:25 AM |
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Re: tabstop/setfocus/enabled - kixforms button weirdness
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ah well , you can condense what you want to show in a snippet ... as always one can't post the whole 2600 line thing
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Lonkero
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| 2002-12-02 09:33 AM |
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Re: tabstop/setfocus/enabled - kixforms button weirdness
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what I want is no can do with code.
what I do when trying to get it, I can show.
but as I said, I can't post all the trials just an example.
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Jochen
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| 2002-12-02 09:35 AM |
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Re: tabstop/setfocus/enabled - kixforms button weirdness
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Yeah ... go ahead .. .may be that I can help ya (Yes, I have experience with this stuff
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Lonkero
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| 2002-12-02 09:41 AM |
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ok, I still think the forms layout calculator is little wrong as normally need 5 adjusting pixels in the width.
anyway, here is something:
code:there is no way you can remove the black border around the notab button once you have clicked it.$=createobject("kixtart.form")
$.size=80,120
$.center
$notab=$.button("please, no tab",5,10,70,20)
$notab.tabstop=0
$notab.onmouseup="$$second.setfocus"
$second=$.button("second",5,40,70,20)
$exit=$.button("exit",5,70,70,20)
$exit.onclick="$$.hide"
$exit.defaul=1
$.show
while $.visible $nul=execute($.doevents) loop
and btw, rod/shawn, documentation on the tabstop in:
http://www.kixforms.freeuk.com/Docs/Properties/tabstop.htm
is wrong.
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Lonkero
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| (KiX Master Guru) |
| 2002-12-02 09:58 AM |
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Re: tabstop/setfocus/enabled - kixforms button weirdness
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got it, the old style.
was going to shower (that is place for all inventions)
so:
code:$=createobject("kixtart.form")
$.size=80,120
$.center
$notab=$.button("please, no tab",5,10,70,20)
$notab.tabstop=0
$notab.onmouseup="$$nul=sendkeys('{tab}')"
$second=$.button("second",5,40,70,20)
$exit=$.button("exit",5,70,70,20)
$exit.onclick="$$.hide"
$exit.defaul=1
$.show
while $.visible $nul=execute($.doevents) loop
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Jochen
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| 2002-12-02 10:02 AM |
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Re: tabstop/setfocus/enabled - kixforms button weirdness
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The black border around notab is removed by a TAB
... what would you like it to be ?
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Jochen
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| 2002-12-02 10:05 AM |
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Re: tabstop/setfocus/enabled - kixforms button weirdness
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Hehe , best place for inventions is the bathroom / smoking a cigarette or something similar !
So you did a sendkeys {TAB} by kix ... how about a $button.Setfocus ???
[ 02. December 2002, 10:10: Message edited by: jpols ]
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Jochen
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| 2002-12-02 10:08 AM |
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Re: tabstop/setfocus/enabled - kixforms button weirdness
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is that what you wanted it to be =?
code:break on
$=createobject("kixtart.form")
$.size=80,120
$.center
$notab=$.button("please, no tab",5,10,70,20)
$notab.tabstop=0
$notab.onmouseOver="$$second.SetFocus"
$second=$.button("second",5,40,70,20)
$exit=$.button("exit",5,70,70,20)
$exit.onclick="$$.hide"
$exit.defaul=1
$.show
while $.visible $nul=execute($.doevents) loop
quit ()
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Jochen
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| 2002-12-02 10:12 AM |
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Re: tabstop/setfocus/enabled - kixforms button weirdness
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weirdo :
code:break on
$=createobject("kixtart.form")
$.size=80,120
$.center
$notab=$.button("please, no tab",5,10,70,20)
$notab.tabstop=0
$notab.OnClick="$$second.SetFocus $$second.Default = 1"
$second=$.button("second",5,40,70,20)
$exit=$.button("exit",5,70,70,20)
$exit.onclick="$$.hide"
$exit.defaul=1
$.show
while $.visible $nul=execute($.doevents) loop
quit ()
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Jochen
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| 2002-12-02 10:18 AM |
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Re: tabstop/setfocus/enabled - kixforms button weirdness
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Ok,
Senkeys ({tab}) seems to be the only way (by now)
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Lonkero
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| 2002-12-02 10:22 AM |
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Re: tabstop/setfocus/enabled - kixforms button weirdness
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j, look at my first code and you could have skipped your last 4 replies
![[Razz]](images/icons/tongue.gif){kind=icon}
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Lonkero
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| 2002-12-02 10:24 AM |
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Re: tabstop/setfocus/enabled - kixforms button weirdness
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Like said, I have tried all the means.
even hiding and disabling.
there is no way without external help.
that is the reason for this topic, but as I've seen, shawn is too busy to even look at the board.
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Jochen
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| 2002-12-02 10:25 AM |
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Re: tabstop/setfocus/enabled - kixforms button weirdness
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Yessir , that was the famous , tried all possibilities while you solved it for yerself ...
Sorry, no shower in here
![[Big Grin]](images/icons/grin.gif){kind=icon}
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Lonkero
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| 2002-12-02 10:30 AM |
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also, shawn, if one has messagebox without system modal, it does not appear in the taskbar, this means that only way to find it would be to minimize windows one by one, weird?
anyway, having a system modal dialog on the top is no goodie as it removes the possibility to hide it while doing current urgent job.
this actually would have been good reason for other topic but anyway.
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Jochen
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| 2002-12-02 10:33 AM |
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Re: tabstop/setfocus/enabled - kixforms button weirdness
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one should always work with the kixforms.msgbox() while running KiXforms !
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Lonkero
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| 2002-12-02 10:37 AM |
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j, back again with some not reading!
that is the problem, I'm currently using kixforms messagebox and it does not work as expected.
the old kixtarts messagebox (in checker 1.5.x) had no problems whatsoever.
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Jochen
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| 2002-12-02 10:48 AM |
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Re: tabstop/setfocus/enabled - kixforms button weirdness
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think this can be handled as expected ... or not ?
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Jochen
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| 2002-12-02 10:50 AM |
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Re: tabstop/setfocus/enabled - kixforms button weirdness
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for reasons of being forms conform you can always make a costum subform !
(I had this exercised with a splash screen , one can mark to never show again)
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Lonkero
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| 2002-12-02 10:51 AM |
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this can be handled as not expected.
expected behaviour would be similarity.
anyway, if this is expected, my message would be request to change it.
and meanwhile I turn back to using kixtarts function.
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Jochen
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| 2002-12-02 11:03 AM |
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and the msgbox holds your script execution untill it'S answered , no ?
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Lonkero
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| 2002-12-02 11:15 AM |
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as it's in own process, no
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Lonkero
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| 2002-12-05 02:45 AM |
Re: tabstop/setfocus/enabled - kixforms button weirdness
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shawn, you got anything to say?
![[Frown]](images/icons/frown.gif){kind=icon}
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Shawn
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| 2002-12-05 03:04 AM |
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Can you give me the Readers Digest version of what the problem is ... i've downloaded a couple of these sample scripts, but can you bring me up-to-speed ?
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Lonkero
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| 2002-12-05 03:10 AM |
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simply, install new checker and see how it should go
the current status is that I handled the removing of "active" element borders around button by sending a tab-character to form with sendkeys.
with kixforms functions, I could remove the focus but the black border remained.
so, seems that the setfocus does not "activate" the control and this causes that there is still left the borders around the old focused control.
kind of mark of users last action.
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Shawn
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| 2002-12-05 03:26 AM |
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Removed the focus with TabStop = False ?
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NTDOC
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| 2002-12-05 03:27 AM |
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![[Cool]](images/icons/cool.gif){kind=icon}
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Lonkero
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| 2002-12-05 03:28 AM |
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the tabstop does not with it if user clicks the control with his mouse.
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NTDOC
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| 2002-12-05 03:31 AM |
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Lonkero,
Sorry but I'm not sure what you're trying to explain. Can you try explaining another way?
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Shawn
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| 2002-12-05 03:32 AM |
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Heres the definition of TabStop :
Gets or sets a boolean indicating whether the user can give the focus to this control using the TAB key. The default is True.
TabStop just disables the user from navigating to the button via the TAB key ... the mouse is not effected by this property.
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Lonkero
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| 2002-12-05 03:33 AM |
Re: tabstop/setfocus/enabled - kixforms button weirdness
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![[Mad]](images/icons/mad.gif){kind=icon}
well, at least jochen understood me.
should I hire an interpreter?
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Lonkero
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| 2002-12-05 03:36 AM |
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shawn, yes yes.
but the issue is, that still after I use $anotherControl.setfocus the control stays "active"
active by means of the black border around it.
you can see it with those test scripts.
btw, someone else should also try them and maybe even understand.
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NTDOC
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| 2002-12-05 03:36 AM |
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Only if he speaks ebonics or spanish...
LOL
No, just sometimes difficult to get your idea across in writing let alone tranlating the meaning into another language.
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Shawn
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| 2002-12-05 03:39 AM |
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Yeah, i think i see behavior now. You click a button and the highlite border turns on - then if you SetFocus in code to another control, the highlite border stays on the old control, yeah ?
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| 2002-12-05 03:41 AM |
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YES!
[ 05. December 2002, 03:42: Message edited by: LLigetfa ]
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Lonkero
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| 2002-12-05 03:41 AM |
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shawn, I wonder what in my words was so different that it takes for everyone hour or 2 to understand?
should I move to canada and learn how you ppl think so could write better
anyway, you got it.
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Shawn
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| 2002-12-05 03:46 AM |
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Let me test this with vb6 ... right back ...
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Shawn
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| 2002-12-05 03:51 AM |
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yeah - the highlite should move to the focused item - other than that - the behavior under these scenarios looks pretty consistent with VB ...
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Lonkero
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| 2002-12-05 03:54 AM |
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so, fixable, no?
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Shawn
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| 2002-12-05 03:56 AM |
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Actually I should qualifiy that statement - you "made it" consistent yourself by coding the SetFocus to another control. In VB, if TabStop = False, when a button is clicked the focus automatically moves to the next control in the ZOrder. So guess there are two issues here.
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Jochen
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| 2002-12-05 09:14 AM |
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Did you say ZOrder ?
Master of the Universe ?
Wasn't this just for ordering and seperating overlapping Images ???