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#99351 - 2003-03-14 03:32 PM Re: KiXtart Golf: CD Sorter
maciep maciep Korg Regular Registered: 2002-06-14 Posts: 947 Loc: Pittsburgh	quote: Average CD Length = 44.57 Average Gap = 0.43 Average Gap [%] = 0.97 KiXtart KiXtart Version = 4.20 KiXGolf Script = kixgolf_cd.kix Computer OS = Windows XP Professional CPU = Intel Pentium III Speed = 730 MHz Memory = 126 MB KiXGolf Scoring Engine Scoring Engine = 3.0.3 KiXtart Golf Score Tournament = KiXtart Golf: CD Sorter Processing Start = 2003/03/14 09:36:34.537 Processing End = 2003/03/14 09:37:19.350 Duration = 0000/00/00 00:00:44.813 # Loops = 1 # Processed CDs = 12 # Valid CDs = 12 # Full CDs = 0 KiXGolf Result = Valid CD Filling KiXGolf Score = 239 Thank you for participating in KiXtart Golf! _________________________ Eric
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#99352 - 2003-03-14 03:37 PM Re: KiXtart Golf: CD Sorter
Lonkero Lonkero KiX Master Guru Registered: 2001-06-05 Posts: 22346 Loc: OK	maciep, I want to know... how generic is your code? like, if the songlist has only 2 five-minute songs, does it work? or is it specific for this task? just want to know _________________________ ! download KiXnet
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#99353 - 2003-03-14 04:01 PM Re: KiXtart Golf: CD Sorter
maciep maciep Korg Regular Registered: 2002-06-14 Posts: 947 Loc: Pittsburgh	Jooel, It is specific for this task in that if the given gap of one minute is not attainable, the function would fail. So, if there were only two five-minute songs in a list, then the function would not work. But if there were only two 27-minute songs in a list, it would work. _________________________ Eric
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#99354 - 2003-03-14 04:04 PM Re: KiXtart Golf: CD Sorter
Lonkero Lonkero KiX Master Guru Registered: 2001-06-05 Posts: 22346 Loc: OK	yeah, just like I quessed. no wonder I have hard time competing well, I try to keep up but I have great suspicion will I get any strokes of this without loosing the generic nature. well, will try to improve the crypting. _________________________ ! download KiXnet
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#99355 - 2003-03-14 04:08 PM Re: KiXtart Golf: CD Sorter
Sealeopard Sealeopard KiX Master Registered: 2001-04-25 Posts: 11164 Loc: Boston, MA, USA	So, If I would test it with gap=2, your function would fail? What happens if I change the media length? Hmm, the whole gap-business could have lead to the introduction of a third calling parameter CD_Sorter(SongList, MediaLength, Gap) but that's too late now. _________________________ There are two types of vessels, submarines and targets.
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#99356 - 2003-03-14 04:11 PM Re: KiXtart Golf: CD Sorter
Lonkero Lonkero KiX Master Guru Registered: 2001-06-05 Posts: 22346 Loc: OK	jens, the gap thingie could have been with percent ruling. but what comes to medialength, wonder why you wanted to use the same. could have collected the info together from multiple loops with multiple media-lengths... well, think that it's too late for this also. _________________________ ! download KiXnet
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#99357 - 2003-03-14 04:17 PM Re: KiXtart Golf: CD Sorter
Sealeopard Sealeopard KiX Master Registered: 2001-04-25 Posts: 11164 Loc: Boston, MA, USA	Yes, I know, two loops, one for media lengths between e.g. 0 and max(sum(Songlist)), the other one for a gap of 0.05%-20% of media length. But, as you said, this is too late now. Unless we modify the goal of the second (public) coding round. I'm not going to make any changes to the current setup. _________________________ There are two types of vessels, submarines and targets.
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#99358 - 2003-03-14 04:29 PM Re: KiXtart Golf: CD Sorter
maciep maciep Korg Regular Registered: 2002-06-14 Posts: 947 Loc: Pittsburgh	Guys, Media length is not a factor in my function. If it's changed, the function will still work. Personally, I agree that CDSorter() should have a third parameter for the gap. Right now, I have it hardcoded as 1 minute. Anyway, quote: Average CD Length = 44.47 Average Gap = 0.53 Average Gap [%] = 1.18 KiXtart KiXtart Version = 4.20 KiXGolf Script = kixgolf_cd.kix Computer OS = Windows XP Professional CPU = Intel Pentium III Speed = 730 MHz Memory = 126 MB KiXGolf Scoring Engine Scoring Engine = 3.0.3 KiXtart Golf Score Tournament = KiXtart Golf: CD Sorter Processing Start = 2003/03/14 10:27:32.231 Processing End = 2003/03/14 10:27:43.074 Duration = 0000/00/00 00:00:10.843 # Loops = 1 # Processed CDs = 12 # Valid CDs = 12 # Full CDs = 0 KiXGolf Result = Valid CD Filling KiXGolf Score = 230 Thank you for participating in KiXtart Golf! [ 14. March 2003, 16:30: Message edited by: maciep ] _________________________ Eric
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#99359 - 2003-03-14 04:31 PM Re: KiXtart Golf: CD Sorter
Lonkero Lonkero KiX Master Guru Registered: 2001-06-05 Posts: 22346 Loc: OK	not saying that medialength is a factor but it would bring up real-world usage example. that is the reason the parameter was added in first place. _________________________ ! download KiXnet
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#99360 - 2003-03-14 06:53 PM Re: KiXtart Golf: CD Sorter
Lonkero Lonkero KiX Master Guru Registered: 2001-06-05 Posts: 22346 Loc: OK	btw, jens... think that we could make a cycle counter for next golf tournament. purely kix-solution and not perfect I have in mind but anyway. _________________________ ! download KiXnet
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#99361 - 2003-03-14 07:33 PM Re: KiXtart Golf: CD Sorter
Lonkero Lonkero KiX Master Guru Registered: 2001-06-05 Posts: 22346 Loc: OK	Average CD Length = 44.83 Average Gap = 0.17 Average Gap [%] = 0.39 KiXtart KiXtart Version = 4.21 Release Candidate 1 KiXGolf Script = kixgolf_cd.kix Computer OS = Windows 2000 Professional CPU = Intel Pentium III Speed = 797 MHz Memory = 375 MB KiXGolf Scoring Engine Scoring Engine = 3.0.3 KiXtart Golf Score Tournament = KiXtart Golf: CD Sorter Processing Start = 2003/03/14 19:58:48.046 Processing End = 2003/03/14 20:38:02.722 Duration = 0000/00/00 00:39:14.675 # Loops = 1 # Processed CDs = 12 # Valid CDs = 12 # Full CDs = 2 KiXGolf Result = Valid CD Filling KiXGolf Score = 245 Thank you for participating in KiXtart Golf! _________________________ ! download KiXnet
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#99362 - 2003-03-14 08:12 PM Re: KiXtart Golf: CD Sorter
Lonkero Lonkero KiX Master Guru Registered: 2001-06-05 Posts: 22346 Loc: OK	I don't actually like the Idea of gap as arg. it's then no more real-life situation. who knows before hand the best solution without testing? and who needs to know anything anymore when he knows the ideal? that is stupid in that way. but the gap could have been percent of the media length IF POSSIBLE or little lower etc. this way the task would have double harder too. _________________________ ! download KiXnet
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#99363 - 2003-03-14 08:26 PM Re: KiXtart Golf: CD Sorter
maciep maciep Korg Regular Registered: 2002-06-14 Posts: 947 Loc: Pittsburgh	I understand what you're saying, but I still like the gap. It gives us a set of rules. I mean after all, this is a golf tournament. So with no rules, whose the winner? Would it be lowest score, smallest gap or fastest function? Gap % would work too, but it would just add strokes to my score, it wouldn't change my algorithm at all. And as far as real world goes, I don't think a function that takes 40 minutes to fill 12 CD's with songs would be very acceptable. _________________________ Eric
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#99364 - 2003-03-15 12:42 AM Re: KiXtart Golf: CD Sorter
Jack Lothian Jack Lothian MM club member Registered: 1999-10-22 Posts: 1169 Loc: Ottawa,Ontario, Canada	I am not sure about the gap being the key variable. Rounding is raising its ugly head in all my tests. Several of Jens' examples can give multiple answers that differ in the 3rd or 4th decimal. For example, I have derived 2 very different answers for CD1 that give lengths of 44.9998 & 44.9999 for an improvement of 0.0001 in the gap. Small changes in logic can drastically change the derived results. Rounding & data conversion in kixtart can be bizarre & unpredictable. _________________________ Jack
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#99365 - 2003-03-15 02:34 AM Re: KiXtart Golf: CD Sorter
Sealeopard Sealeopard KiX Master Registered: 2001-04-25 Posts: 11164 Loc: Boston, MA, USA	Theoretically, you wouldn't have any rounding issues as all datasets have foru decimal places and simple add/subtract operations won't change the number of significant decimal places. However, since the numbers are displayed in binary fashion, you incur +/- EPS in precision for each number. EPS is the smallest number that can be expressed in the number format used. EPS for integers is e.g. 1. So, even add/subtract introduce very small round-off errors whcih should be in the order of maybe 1E-16. I would not expect to see round-off errors in the fourth digit. _________________________ There are two types of vessels, submarines and targets.
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#99366 - 2003-03-15 03:39 AM Re: KiXtart Golf: CD Sorter
Lonkero Lonkero KiX Master Guru Registered: 2001-06-05 Posts: 22346 Loc: OK	Average CD Length = 44.83 Average Gap = 0.17 Average Gap [%] = 0.39 KiXtart KiXtart Version = 4.21 Release Candidate 1 KiXGolf Script = kixgolf_cd.kix Computer OS = Windows 2000 Professional CPU = Intel Pentium III Speed = 797 MHz Memory = 375 MB KiXGolf Scoring Engine Scoring Engine = 3.0.3 KiXtart Golf Score Tournament = KiXtart Golf: CD Sorter Processing Start = 2003/03/14 20:46:06.287 Processing End = 2003/03/14 21:25:02.276 Duration = 0000/00/00 00:38:55.989 # Loops = 1 # Processed CDs = 12 # Valid CDs = 12 # Full CDs = 2 KiXGolf Result = Valid CD Filling KiXGolf Score = 244 Thank you for participating in KiXtart Golf! _________________________ ! download KiXnet
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#99367 - 2003-03-15 09:45 AM Re: KiXtart Golf: CD Sorter
Howard Bullock Howard Bullock KiX Supporter Registered: 2000-09-15 Posts: 5809 Loc: Harrisburg, PA USA	Trying to track this down: On the 12th CD: quote: CDSorter = 3,6,26,33,39,40,46,50,88,92 ERROR : array reference out of bounds! Script: C:\Data\Scripts\Golf\kixgolf_cd\kixgolf_cd.kix Line : 127 Not sure what's up. _________________________ Home page: http://www.kixhelp.com/hb/
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#99368 - 2003-03-15 10:38 AM

Re: KiXtart Golf: CD Sorter

Howard Bullock Offline

KiX Supporter

Registered: 2000-09-15
Posts: 5809
Loc: Harrisburg, PA USA

My first good code. Why are you guys NOT looping 100x?

code:

Average CD Length = 44.39
Average Gap       = 0.61
Average Gap [%]   = 1.36

KiXtart
KiXtart Version  = 4.21 Release Candidate 1
KiXGolf Script   = kixgolf_cd.kix

Computer
OS               = Windows 2000 Professional
CPU              = Intel Pentium III
Speed            = 848 MHz
Memory           = 511 MB

KiXGolf Scoring Engine
Scoring Engine   = 3.0.3

KiXtart Golf Score
Tournament          = KiXtart Golf: CD Sorter
Processing Start    = 2003/03/15 04:06:35.974
Processing End      = 2003/03/15 04:42:04.287
Duration            = 0000/00/00 00:35:28.313
# Loops             = 100
# Processed CDs     = 12
# Valid CDs         = 12
# Full CDs          = 0
KiXGolf Result      = Valid CD Filling
KiXGolf Score       = 360
 
Thank you for participating in KiXtart Golf!

[ 15. March 2003, 11:09: Message edited by: Howard Bullock ]

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Home page: http://www.kixhelp.com/hb/

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#99369 - 2003-03-15 11:12 AM

Re: KiXtart Golf: CD Sorter

Howard Bullock Offline

KiX Supporter

Registered: 2000-09-15
Posts: 5809
Loc: Harrisburg, PA USA

Yahoo!

Was 244 the best so far?

code:

Average CD Length = 44.38
Average Gap       = 0.62
Average Gap [%]   = 1.37

KiXtart
KiXtart Version  = 4.21 Release Candidate 1
KiXGolf Script   = kixgolf_cd.kix

Computer
OS               = Windows 2000 Professional
CPU              = Intel Pentium III
Speed            = 848 MHz
Memory           = 511 MB

KiXGolf Scoring Engine
Scoring Engine   = 3.0.3

KiXtart Golf Score
Tournament          = KiXtart Golf: CD Sorter
Processing Start    = 2003/03/15 05:14:08.576
Processing End      = 2003/03/15 05:14:21.365
Duration            = 0000/00/00 00:00:12.789
# Loops             = 1
# Processed CDs     = 12
# Valid CDs         = 12
# Full CDs          = 0
KiXGolf Result      = Valid CD Filling
KiXGolf Score       = 222
 
Thank you for participating in KiXtart Golf!

_________________________
Home page: http://www.kixhelp.com/hb/

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#99370 - 2003-03-15 11:25 AM

Re: KiXtart Golf: CD Sorter

Howard Bullock Offline

KiX Supporter

Registered: 2000-09-15
Posts: 5809
Loc: Harrisburg, PA USA

code:

Average CD Length = 44.39
Average Gap       = 0.61
Average Gap [%]   = 1.36

KiXtart
KiXtart Version  = 4.21 Release Candidate 1
KiXGolf Script   = kixgolf_cd.kix

Computer
OS               = Windows 2000 Professional
CPU              = Intel Pentium III
Speed            = 848 MHz
Memory           = 511 MB

KiXGolf Scoring Engine
Scoring Engine   = 3.0.3

KiXtart Golf Score
Tournament          = KiXtart Golf: CD Sorter
Processing Start    = 2003/03/15 05:53:43.338
Processing End      = 2003/03/15 05:53:54.075
Duration            = 0000/00/00 00:00:10.737
# Loops             = 1
# Processed CDs     = 12
# Valid CDs         = 12
# Full CDs          = 0
KiXGolf Result      = Valid CD Filling
KiXGolf Score       = 214
 
Thank you for participating in KiXtart Golf!

[ 15. March 2003, 11:48: Message edited by: Howard Bullock ]

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Home page: http://www.kixhelp.com/hb/

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