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#98647 - 2003-02-21 05:27 PM Please Help
DJ Ballistic Offline
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Here is my problem.
Our domain is running Windows 2000 Server Domain Controllers and a mixture of clients.
Ranging from Windows 9x, NT4, 2000 Pro and XP Pro.

I have login scripts created and it is working perfectly on the NT based clients but I have not tested it on the 9x clients as of yet. I have been reading something about the other required files to be used for 9x clients.

Is there any example anywhere of how this is done?

I have also not deployed this login script as of yet for the entire domain. Only on a single test user account using kix32 in Active Directory and like I said it does work. How would I deploy this by Group Policy?

Any help would be great.

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#98648 - 2003-02-21 05:31 PM Re: Please Help
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As long as you have 9x clients, you cannot deploy to them via GPO. Deploying as GPO script is straight forward and has been discussed on this board before.
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#98649 - 2003-02-21 05:32 PM Re: Please Help
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I suggest you read the 1st 20 or so pages of the manual. It might cost you an hour but it will save dozens of hours in the future. Also look into our FAQ forum, it has a large number of topics helpful to starters.

It is difficult for us to respond to general appeals for help. Request for fixes to specific problems tend to get immediate responses.

To research topics concerning deploying kixtart. Try searching the starters & scripts forums for 'copying kix', 'delpoying kixtart', etc. There have been hundreds of discussions on the topic. MCA's site has a utility to help with deployment. Also, I think Jooel posted a function in the UDF forum on this topic.

[ 21. February 2003, 17:36: Message edited by: Jack Lothian ]
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#98650 - 2003-02-21 05:36 PM Re: Please Help
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Here is a specific problem then.
I have a script that copies a desktop shortcut to the user's desktop upon login and it creates it but because it is "My Computer Information.kix" the user's PC doesn't know what to do with it to run it. I can manually go tell it to run kix32.exe and then the script runs fine. This is on a 2000 Pro PC.
My question is how can I have it associate an icon with the shortcut and have it be able to be ran upon clicking on the icon. It is for help desk purposes.

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#98651 - 2003-02-21 05:38 PM Re: Please Help
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Well I have looked through the manual and can't really find much help. I was hoping there would be someone that has similar situation to give me an example of what I can do to get the 9x clients to work properly.
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#98652 - 2003-02-21 05:38 PM Re: Please Help
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Try doing a search of the various forums using the word 'shortcut'.
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#98653 - 2003-02-21 05:40 PM Re: Please Help
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While it is possible to associate .kix to a specific application like KiX32.exe or WKix32.exe, I would suggest that instead you just include the path and name to the exe on the target: of the shortcut.

i.e.
%windir%\wkix32.exe "C:\KiXScripts\My Computer Information.kix"
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#98654 - 2003-02-21 05:41 PM Re: Please Help
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Ahh ok i got that part ok I think my problem is that the kix32 or wkix32 isn't being copied to the client. How can I make that happen?
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#98655 - 2003-02-21 05:45 PM Re: Please Help
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Well, the COPY command would do it for you, but where you can copy it to is dependedt on what rights the user has. Just beware that if copying from within a KiX script, you cannot copy the same file you are executing. For that you should have a seed copy to distribute.

You could also leave it on a network share and call it from there.

If you have your AD setup to distribute software, you could push it out that way.
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#98656 - 2003-02-21 05:45 PM Re: Please Help
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Why don't you look at the following threads on deployment.

http://www.kixtart.org/board/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=003888#000005
http://www.kixtart.org/board/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=003372#000006

This one is a bit long & somewhat technical but it does cover a lot of territory.

http://www.kixtart.org/board/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=003550;p=1
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#98657 - 2003-02-21 05:48 PM Re: Please Help
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Well I don't have AD setup right now to push out software. Right now the kix32 files are on \\sussex1\netlogon

The shortcut gets created on the desktop but nothing else happens.

*Sigh*

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#98658 - 2003-02-21 05:54 PM Re: Please Help
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Bah this is BS. I am really new to this and I am sort of having to do something in a hurry on this. Those posts in the forum don't really help me at all. It is just a few people complaining as to why it works or doesn't work and some sample code that also doesn't work.
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#98659 - 2003-02-21 05:54 PM Re: Please Help
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I prefer to copy KiX32.exe and WKiX32.exe to %windir% on all my clients but for that, admin rights are needed. If you users don't have admin rights, you will need to setup a central admin script that walks the nework and copies the files via the Admin$ share. Better with AD to use the software distribution feature.

There really is nothing wrong with just running KiX from a network share unless the client is bandwidth challenged.
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#98660 - 2003-02-21 05:56 PM Re: Please Help
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Here is what I have so far

$desktop = ReadValue("HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Shell Folders","Desktop")
Copy "\\sussex1\netlogon\My Computer Information.kix" $desktop

That copies the shortcut to the user's desktop and that part works. When I double-click on the shortcut it doesn't know what to do with it because there is no file association. That is as clear as I can be.

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#98661 - 2003-02-21 05:59 PM Re: Please Help
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And for the software installation in AD it needs to be an .MSI or .ZAP file. And the kix32 programs are both .EXE's.

I am lost now.

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#98662 - 2003-02-21 05:59 PM Re: Please Help
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Sorry, don't mean to overwhelm you. If you modified the shortcut to include the full path to KiX32.exe then the problem would be solved.

\\sussex1\netlogon\KiX32.exe "C:\KiXScripts\My Computer Information.kix"

would do it.
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#98663 - 2003-02-21 06:01 PM Re: Please Help
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you are not copying a shortcut, you are copying a script.

make a shortcut in the source location, and copy that to the client.

the shortcut should be something like: "\\sussex1\netlogon\wkix32.exe \\sussex1\netlogon\My Computer Information.kix"
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#98664 - 2003-02-21 06:02 PM Re: Please Help
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Like this:

$desktop = ReadValue("HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Shell Folders","Desktop")
Copy "\\sussex1\netlogon\KiX32.exe C:\KiXScripts\My Computer Information.kix" $desktop

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#98665 - 2003-02-21 06:06 PM Re: Please Help
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no...

make a shortcut in \\sussex1\netlogon

call it something like: "my computer info.lnk"

the shortcut should point to: "\\sussex1\netlogon\kix32.exe \\sussex1\netlogon\My Computer Information.kix"

then in your script put:
$desktop = ReadValue("HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Shell Folders","Desktop")
copy '\\sussex1\netlogon\my computer info.lnk' '$desktop'

[ 21. February 2003, 18:12: Message edited by: Radimus ]
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#98666 - 2003-02-21 06:07 PM Re: Please Help
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DOH! Didn't even notice that it wasn't a shortcut. To make a shortcut, there are several UDFs posted. To visit one topic, use this URL:
http://www.kixtart.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=12;t=000034

AD and MSI installer is a complex issue and not one that can be easily dealt with in this manner. Top that off with the permissions issues of non-admin users and it just gets tougher.
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