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#95854 - 2002-03-01 05:11 AM Completely New UDF Lib
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ScriptLogic has (finally) converted their Function Library to a completely database driven, ASP-based system.

Now you can post functions using a comprehensive wizard and view them by catagory.

You can also tag multiple functions and have them assembled into a KiXtart script and instantly e-mailed to you as an attachment.

This is brand new, and there is always room for improvement -- so please take a moment, visit, and submit a function or two. Give us feedback on how to make it better...
http://www.scriptlogic.com/Kixtart/FunctionList.asp

Many thanks in advance,
-Brian

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#95855 - 2002-03-01 07:23 AM Re: Completely New UDF Lib
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Dear Brian,

We have already see the new capabilities of this site. We like very much the capability
of sending the plain text versions by mail.
Possible you have already see our new way of presentation
http://home.wanadoo.nl/scripting/specials/kix-udf2.htm

Only one point about the site: can the default setting point to general (= ?FT=All)
part instead to the date time part. It is more logic.
Another point: is it a problem when we mirror those functions as plain text on our site.
Of course only as mirror and with all credits to Scriptlogic. Scriptlogic is for us only
the right place for the acurate ones.
greetings.

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#95856 - 2002-03-01 09:27 AM Re: Completely New UDF Lib
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Brian,

VERY NICE
Good looking, easy to navigate, and worked like a charm. I Chose to download ALL and it selected all of them with one mouse click, compiled it into a 141k .kix file and emailed it to me. All done and completed in under 30 seconds. No fuss, no "sign this" or anything like it.

I tried out a lot of the links on the site and they alll worked well. Links outside of ScriptLogic opened a new window, not a frame from within ScriptLogic... All the pages I visited were aesthetically pleasing as well.

Kudos to you Brian, job well done.

[ 01 March 2002: Message edited by: NTDOC ]

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#95857 - 2002-03-01 07:07 PM Re: Completely New UDF Lib
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Hey THIS is FUN
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After testing this for a few weeks (as you can see by all the functions I posted), I'm really tickled at the work ScriptLogic -- especially Michael Hak -- put into the functions area.

I'm sure there will be lots of good suggestions for minor tweaks and improvements as more folks start to use the site. However, that site answers a real need for easy submission, version control, and retrieval of KiXtart UDF's. Now Ruud can do a mass dump of all the UDF's in that library and incorporate them into KiXtart 5.0.

Thanks, ScriptLogic, for all the work and for your contribution to the KiXtart community.

New Mexico Mark

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#95858 - 2002-03-01 11:05 PM Re: Completely New UDF Lib
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MCA: We'd be glad to have you host text version of the functions. It is nie to have the UDFs available at more than one location for redundancy. Perhaps we can even work with you to create an automated ASP mechanism that e-mails them to you as new ones are posed and existing ones are updated?

NTDOC: Glad you like! Kudos belong to Michael -- he has been the project leader on this over the last 6+ months...

MARK: Yes, as Michael may have told you, there are already a number of enhancemnts planned -- such as 'discuss this function', which will be similar to a forum, but limited to each function -- this will provide a method for people to make suggestions to a specific function in public view. The UDF author can then reply and/or revise the function itself. A 'e-mail me when a new or updatred function is posted' will also be added to the user profiles area.

-Brian

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#95859 - 2002-03-04 01:59 AM Re: Completely New UDF Lib
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Dear Brian,

Currently we have the possibility to download all new and updated functions. So
to keep them acurate isn't for us the biggest problem. More important is that
your organization inform us about significant changes with the format of related
pages. Not only ScriptLogic but also a lot of other sites are changing on regular
base the structure of their pages.
An important page for upgrading our information is:
"http://www.scriptlogic.com/kixtart/FunctionList.asp?FT=All"
So Brian, we are very grateful when we get informed about coming changes to
above page.
greetings.

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#95860 - 2002-03-12 08:42 PM Re: Completely New UDF Lib
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Request For Comments:

Looking for feedback on the ScriptLogic UDF submission & delivery system.

Is the interface flexible enough for everyone's functions?

How could it be improved?

Your comments are extremely valuable. We will do everything we can to make it better, if you tell us how [Smile]

www.scriptlogic.com/kixtart/functionlist.asp

-Brian

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#95861 - 2002-03-12 09:08 PM Re: Completely New UDF Lib
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I just posted my first UDF over there.

While I understand (and respect) the design of the upload form, it is bit of a bother to fill it all in.

I'm kind of sloppy when it comes to that, and even cut'n paste still takes a bit to fill all that in. Specifically the UDF parameters...

The retrieval of a UDF is wonderful...
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#95862 - 2002-03-13 03:42 AM Re: Completely New UDF Lib
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Radimus: Many thanks for the feedback, and for publishing your function.

I guess the benefit of a form is standardization, though it does somehwat limit flexibility. Perhaps this is an acceptible tradeoff? More comments please [Smile]

Anyway, if you have any suggestion on how to keep the form while improving it, we're all ears -- we designed this site to be useful to everyone. Please be as detailed as possible with your suggestions.

Thank you very much in advance!!
-Brian

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#95863 - 2002-03-13 04:15 AM Re: Completely New UDF Lib
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Rad - which UDF is yours ? Did a quick scan and couldn't find it - is there a way to query UDF's by Author ?

-Shawn

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#95864 - 2002-03-13 04:59 AM Re: Completely New UDF Lib
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I put RegWrite over there. Nothing special, but still useful.
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#95865 - 2002-04-03 02:55 PM Re: Completely New UDF Lib
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Based on everyone's feedback, we've made some nice updates to the UDF Library:

Statistics atop the function display page -- now you can see how many times your function was e-mailed to others and its current ranking (based on votes).

The function discussion system is now operational, so rather than using a public forum, each function can have its own private comments.

A couple minor problems have been fixed when modifying a function already submitted.

The form fields when add/modifying are much more appropriately sized now (each field is taller).

The function's last modified date will only be updated if you change the source code of your function. This helps with the main catagory tabbed pages from showing 'updated' when only minor grammer changes have been made.

I'd like to take this opportunity to once again encourage all the gurus over here at kixtart.org to publish their UDFs in the new library. ** Please consider this a special invitation: Richard, Shawn, MCA, Bryce, Howard, Jooel, Jan, Roger, Jens, Kent, and anyone else who I may have hastily ommitted from this message.

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#95866 - 2002-04-03 03:25 PM Re: Completely New UDF Lib
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Brian,

With IE 5.50...

Just cruised over to your site to see what has changed around there.

While clicking the "highlight code" button on - http://www.scriptlogic.com/kixtart/ViewFunction.asp?FN=Year

Line: 489
Char: 1
Error: Object doesn't support this property or method
Code: 0
URL: http://www.scriptlogic.com/kixtart/ViewFunction.asp?FN=Year

Thanks!

- Kent
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#95867 - 2002-04-03 03:28 PM Re: Completely New UDF Lib
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MCA,

On your list of links of sites, it maybe helpful to have these open in a new window.

Thanks!

- Kent

[ 03 April 2002, 15:28: Message edited by: kdyer ]
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#95868 - 2002-04-03 10:01 PM Re: Completely New UDF Lib
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Kent,
I think the highlight code button functionality got broke recently. I will forward notice and get it fixed.
Thanks,
Brian

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#95869 - 2002-04-05 09:06 PM Re: Completely New UDF Lib
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Just made the function voting summary page public. In the past, this has been a private page used by ScriptLogic and Ruud for determining which UDFs are the most popular (based on votes).

As you know, based on the voting system, Ruud has already added a number of UDFs into the 4.0x final and upcoming 4.10 beta. (examples: Left, Right, Mod, Trim), etc.

Check it out, but remember the numbers were reset when we converted to the new ASP-database driven system:
http://www.scriptlogic.com/kixtart/functionresults.asp

Then, get your functions posted and get them voted on. Let's make sure Ruud knows which UDFs are the most valuable so he can build them into KiXtart natively!

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#95870 - 2002-04-06 05:35 AM Re: Completely New UDF Lib
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You go Howard!!!

Hey, now that you've submitted a handful of functions, please let me know what you think about the system.

Specifically, what is your favorite part, how would you improve it, etc.? Any and all comments, positive and negative are kindly requested.

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#95871 - 2002-04-06 05:52 AM Re: Completely New UDF Lib
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The process was fairly smooth, but on several submissions that took me a little while, the page failed to post. I had to open up a new session and copy all the data to a new form in order to post it.

The "Dependencies" input filed should scroll.

The ability to modify separate parts of the post was very helpful.
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#95872 - 2002-11-19 04:25 AM Re: Completely New UDF Lib
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I hate to be a stickler as I'm generally not one for Micro Management, but this post has no UDF code in it. Since it only shows that another site is available with good UDFs as well, I think this thread should either be moved to GENERAL and/or somehow noted in one of the FAQs that ScriptLogic has a good UDF section as well.

Radimus ?

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#95873 - 2002-11-19 08:13 AM Re: Completely New UDF Lib
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doc, you are right on that.
thought that this was in general for the discussion is similar but per your notice saw the forum...

please move it... rad?
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