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#93679 - 2002-09-16 02:43 PM How to get people to RTFM
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I just posted something about the play command and put a link to the online manual here like this:

(URL=http://www.kixtart.org/commandreference.html#_Toc472311876)PLAY(/URL)

Real one:PLAY

So it redirects directly to the command. I don't know if this is new or not, but I thought it might be useful sometimes.

The reference links are:
code:
;		#_Toc472311850
? #_Toc472311851
BEEP #_Toc472311852
BIG #_Toc472311853
BREAK #_Toc472311854
CALL #_Toc472311855
CD #_Toc472311856
CLS #_Toc472311857
COLOR #_Toc472311858
COOKIE1 #_Toc472311859
COPY #_Toc472311860
DEL #_Toc472311861
DIM #_Toc472311862
DISPLAY #_Toc472311863
DO UNTIL #_Toc472311864
EXIT #_Toc472311865
FLUSHKB #_Toc472311866
GET #_Toc472311867
GETS #_Toc472311868
GLOBAL #_Toc472311869
[GO] #_Toc472311870
GOSUB #_Toc472311871
GOTO #_Toc472311872
IF ELSE ENDIF #_Toc472311873
MD #_Toc472311874
PASSWORD #_Toc472311875
PLAY #_Toc472311876
QUIT #_Toc472311877
RD #_Toc472311878
RETURN #_Toc472311879
RUN #_Toc472311880
SELECT CASE … ENDSELECT #_Toc472311881
SET #_Toc472311882
SETL #_Toc472311883
SETM #_Toc472311884
SETTIME #_Toc472311885
SHELL #_Toc472311886
SLEEP #_Toc472311887
SMALL #_Toc472311888
USE #_Toc472311889
WHILE - LOOP #_Toc472311890
KiXtart Function Reference #_Toc472311891<DIR>

Return Values #_Toc472311892
Registry Functions #_Toc472311893</DIR>

ADDKEY #_Toc472311894
ADDPRINTERCONNECTION #_Toc472311895
ADDPROGRAMGROUP #_Toc472311896
ADDPROGRAMITEM #_Toc472311897
ASC #_Toc472311898
AT #_Toc472311899
BOX #_Toc472311900
CHR #_Toc472311901
CLOSE #_Toc472311902
COMPAREFILETIMES #_Toc472311903
DECTOHEX #_Toc472311904
DELKEY #_Toc472311905
DELPRINTERCONNECTION #_Toc472311906
DELPROGRAMGROUP #_Toc472311907
DELPROGRAMITEM #_Toc472311908
DELTREE #_Toc472311909
DELVALUE #_Toc472311910
DIR #_Toc472311911
ENUMGROUP #_Toc472311912
ENUMKEY #_Toc472311913
ENUMLOCALGROUP #_Toc472311914
ENUMVALUE #_Toc472311915
EXECUTE #_Toc472311916
EXIST #_Toc472311917
EXISTKEY #_Toc472311918
GETDISKSPACE #_Toc472311919
GETFILEATTR #_Toc472311920
GETFILESIZE #_Toc472311921
GETFILETIME #_Toc472311922
GETFILEVERSION #_Toc472311923
INGROUP #_Toc472311924
INSTR #_Toc472311925
LCASE #_Toc472311926
LEN #_Toc472311927
LOADHIVE #_Toc472311928
LOADKEY #_Toc472311929
LOGEVENT #_Toc472311930
LOGOFF #_Toc472311931
LTRIM #_Toc472311932
MESSAGEBOX #_Toc472311933
OLECALLFUNC #_Toc472311934
OLECALLPROC #_Toc472311935
OLECREATEOBJECT #_Toc472311936
OLEGETOBJECT #_Toc472311937
OLEGETPROPERTY #_Toc472311938
OLEGETSUBOBJECT #_Toc472311939
OLEPUTPROPERTY #_Toc472311940
OLERELEASEOBJECT #_Toc472311941
OPEN #_Toc472311942
READLINE #_Toc472311943
READPROFILESTRING #_Toc472311944
READTYPE #_Toc472311945
READVALUE #_Toc472311946
REDIRECTOUTPUT #_Toc472311947
RND #_Toc472311948
RTRIM #_Toc472311949
SAVEKEY #_Toc472311950
SENDKEYS #_Toc472311951
SENDMESSAGE #_Toc472311952
SETCONSOLE #_Toc472311953
SETDEFAULTPRINTER #_Toc472311954
SETFILEATTR #_Toc472311955
SETFOCUS #_Toc472311956
SETWALLPAPER #_Toc472311957
SHOWPROGRAMGROUP #_Toc472311958
SHUTDOWN #_Toc472311959
SRND #_Toc472311960
SUBSTR #_Toc472311961
UCASE #_Toc472311962
UNLOADHIVE #_Toc472311963
VAL #_Toc472311964
WRITELINE #_Toc472311965
WRITEPROFILESTRING #_Toc472311966
WRITEVALUE #_Toc472311967

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#93680 - 2002-09-16 03:05 PM Re: How to get people to RTFM
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the toc links are little bit awfull.
that's why I still use mine:
www.gwspikval.com/jooel/manual/kix410.html#PLAY
 
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#93681 - 2002-09-16 03:09 PM Re: How to get people to RTFM
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I must be just a big dummy. [Frown] How would I go about using the info above? [Confused]
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#93682 - 2002-09-16 03:11 PM Re: How to get people to RTFM
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hoby what about little cut 'n paste
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#93683 - 2002-09-16 03:11 PM Re: How to get people to RTFM
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[Embarrassed] [Embarrassed] Let me go crawl into a hole somewhere.
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#93684 - 2002-09-16 04:05 PM Re: How to get people to RTFM
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ok, made a script:
code:
$=open(1,@scriptdir+"\commandref.txt")
$=open(2,@scriptdir+"\links.txt",5)
$=readline(1)
while @error=0
if len($)
$=split($,chr(9))
for each $v in $
if len($v) $link=$link+" "+trim($v) endif
next
$link =split($link)
$=writeline(2,"@crlf[URL=http://www.kixtart.org/commandreference.html"+$link[2]+"]"+$link[1]+"[/url]")
else
$=writeline(2,@crlf)
endif
$=readline(1)
$link=""
loop

and now the links look just fine to me:

";"
?
BEEP
BIG
BREAK
CALL
CD
CLS
COLOR
COOKIE1
COPY
DEL
DIM
DISPLAY
DO
EXIT
FLUSHKB
GET
GETS
GLOBAL
[GO]
GOSUB
GOTO
IF
MD
PASSWORD
PLAY
QUIT
RD
RETURN
RUN
SELECT
SET
SETL
SETM
SETTIME
SHELL
SLEEP
SMALL
USE
WHILE
KiXtart

Return
Registry

ADDKEY
ADDPRINTERCONNECTION
ADDPROGRAMGROUP
ADDPROGRAMITEM
ASC
AT
BOX
CHR
CLOSE
COMPAREFILETIMES
DECTOHEX
DELKEY
DELPRINTERCONNECTION
DELPROGRAMGROUP
DELPROGRAMITEM
DELTREE
DELVALUE
DIR
ENUMGROUP
ENUMKEY
ENUMLOCALGROUP
ENUMVALUE
EXECUTE
EXIST
EXISTKEY
GETDISKSPACE
GETFILEATTR
GETFILESIZE
GETFILETIME
GETFILEVERSION
INGROUP
INSTR
LCASE
LEN
LOADHIVE
LOADKEY
LOGEVENT
LOGOFF
LTRIM
MESSAGEBOX
OLECALLFUNC
OLECALLPROC
OLECREATEOBJECT
OLEGETOBJECT
OLEGETPROPERTY
OLEGETSUBOBJECT
OLEPUTPROPERTY
OLERELEASEOBJECT
OPEN
READLINE
READPROFILESTRING
READTYPE
READVALUE
REDIRECTOUTPUT
RND
RTRIM
SAVEKEY
SENDKEYS
SENDMESSAGE
SETCONSOLE
SETDEFAULTPRINTER
SETFILEATTR
SETFOCUS
SETWALLPAPER
SHOWPROGRAMGROUP
SHUTDOWN
SRND
SUBSTR
UCASE
UNLOADHIVE
VAL
WRITELINE
WRITEPROFILESTRING
WRITEVALUE

[ 16. September 2002, 16:06: Message edited by: Lonkero ]
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#93685 - 2002-09-16 04:55 PM Re: How to get people to RTFM
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Unfortunately, the command reference is slightly outdated. Would it be possible to update the Command Reference to KiXtart 4.12? I know that we'll run into versioning conflicts.

[ 16. September 2002, 16:56: Message edited by: sealeopard ]
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#93686 - 2002-09-16 04:58 PM Re: How to get people to RTFM
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just working on it.
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#93687 - 2002-09-16 05:13 PM Re: How to get people to RTFM
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found nice tool to help tranlating files...

check this out:
http://www.gwspikval.com/jooel/manual/4.11/KIX2001-Contents.html
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#93688 - 2002-09-16 05:40 PM Re: How to get people to RTFM
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bloody, mistakenly broke my manual too (overwrite is nice thing...) [Frown]
but it's starting to look good.

just have to cut the bloody tocs from there:
http://www.gwspikval.com/jooel/manual/KIX2001.html
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#93689 - 2002-09-16 07:16 PM Re: How to get people to RTFM
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I made somekinda commandref...
it lacks the ? and ;
also, want to have those macros in it.
anyway, it has command ref and links from beta1 of 4.12
BEEP
BREAK
CALL
CD
CLS
COLOR
COOKIE1
COPY
DIM
DO UNTIL
EXIT
FLUSHKB
FOR EACH
GETS
GLOBAL
GOSUB
GOTO
IF ELSE ENDIF
MD
PASSWORD
PLAY
QUIT
RD
RUN
SELECT CASE ... ENDSELECT
SET
SETL
SETM
SETTIME
SHELL
SLEEP
SMALL
USE
WHILE - LOOP
ABS
ADDPRINTERCONNECTION
ADDPROGRAMGROUP
ADDPROGRAMITEM
BACKUPEVENTLOG
CDBL
CINT
COMPAREFILETIMES
CREATEOBJECT
DELPRINTERCONNECTION
DELPROGRAMGROUP
DELPROGRAMITEM
DELTREE
DELVALUE
DIR
ENUMLOCALGROUP
EXECUTE
EXISTKEY
EXPANDENVIRONMENTVARS
GETOBJECT
INSTR
INSTRREV
LOADHIVE
LOGEVENT
LTRIM
MEMORYSIZE
OPEN
READLINE
READPROFILESTRING
READTYPE
READVALUE
REDIRECTOUTPUT
RIGHT
SAVEKEY
SENDKEYS
SETASCII
SETDEFAULTPRINTER
SHOWPROGRAMGROUP
SHUTDOWN
SIDTONAME
TRIM
VARTYPE
WRITEVALUE
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#93690 - 2002-09-16 07:32 PM Re: How to get people to RTFM
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This is really cool..

Is there a way to get this tab-delimited?

Something like:
  • Command
  • Action
  • Syntax
  • Remarks
  • Examples
Thanks!
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#93691 - 2002-09-16 08:35 PM Re: How to get people to RTFM
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eh?

anyway, I still try to find a way to translate the kix.doc to pure html (not any stupid additions of word) easily.

the tool I installed does that but they all are trialware.

so, I have to start building my own converter...
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#93692 - 2002-09-19 02:20 PM Re: How to get people to RTFM
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ok, I got really amazed of how well our sister-site has done these.
check out:
http://helpdesk.kixtart.org/KixManual2001/Functions/!function-reference.asp
http://helpdesk.kixtart.org/KixManual2001/Commands/!command-reference.asp
http://helpdesk.kixtart.org/KixManual2001/Reference/macros.asp
http://helpdesk.kixtart.org/KixManual2001/Reference/Keyword-index.asp

and the whole manual:
http://helpdesk.kixtart.org/KixManual2001/index.asp

this is something I'd like to see on:
kixtart.org/manual !!!

really nice and efficient...
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#93693 - 2002-09-19 02:23 PM Re: How to get people to RTFM
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Great idea Jooel - I was really impressed with what Brian Peterson setup as well. You got my second on that one !
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#93694 - 2002-09-19 03:57 PM Re: How to get people to RTFM
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Hi guys!

Thank your very much... [Embarrassed] So my work haven't been worthless.

The secret of how I made the manual?? Well, hard work!! [Wink] The first manual (KiXtart95) was done in pure HTML but the version 2001 is properly designed in ASP with CSS StyleSheet.

The actual text was ripped from the Word document (NOT from bstyles as he claims!!) with UltraEdit32. This editor works wonders!! Even in Access databases!! [Smile]

If you have any suggestions/comments please shoot...

/Brian

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#93695 - 2002-09-19 04:01 PM Re: How to get people to RTFM
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well, talk to henry.

ask him to point his manual links to your asps...
they might need some rework to make the color scheme more like kixtart.org...

but anyways, if your copyright on the page is enough thanks of the work, even I would like to put those pages in my frames!

cheers again...
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#93696 - 2002-09-27 11:38 AM Re: How to get people to RTFM
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brian, any update?

can we link our pages with you help files?

also, is there someone who has listing of the kixtart commands, functions and macro's.

I need to make them as ini-file and I'm too lazy to parse them manually from the manual...
 
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#93697 - 2002-09-29 12:45 AM Re: How to get people to RTFM
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You are welcome to link to the manual.
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#93698 - 2002-12-07 05:35 AM Re: How to get people to RTFM
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Such lies....

The manual @ helpdesk.kixtart.org was indeed ripped from the CHM manual produced by ScriptLogic. It is blatently obvious since the ScriptLogic version came out first and the pages @ the helpdesk are EXACT copies, all the way down to the colors, formatting, bolding of new items, and the 'see also' hyperlinks.

By the way... the 'see also' hyperlinks are the proof -- Brian states he copied from the MS Word manual using UltraEdit -- in fact, he couldn't have, since Ruud's manual doesn't have 'see also' links. If anyone cares to look closely, you'll notice a number of other small difference between the HTML pages and the Word manual -- differences that were intentional.

You can even see that the directory structure was copied 100% intact (with subfolders for \commands, \functions, and \reference)

Brian, I don't mind that you copied it -- I just really don't like the fact that you are not giving credit to the author. And even more irritating is that you are giving permission to others to re-publish the work that you copied.

Since I don't want this to turn into a pissing contest of who ripped who's work, I challenge you to ask Ruud. ScriptLogic Corp. regularly sends Ruud the source to HTML page (zipped of course)for his own archival purposes.

So please everyone, Brian Peterson did a great job -- a great job of republishing someone else's hard work. If anyone wants permission to link or repost the HTML pages created by SL, you should aks that permission of the author -- ScriptLogic Corp.

-bstyles

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