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#93409 - 2002-09-28 03:52 AM Re: Slow night eh!
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#93410 - 2002-09-28 03:56 AM Re: Slow night eh!
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snort, snort, snort... wheeze... zzzzz...
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#93411 - 2002-09-28 04:45 AM Re: Slow night eh!
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#93412 - 2002-09-28 05:10 AM Re: Slow night eh!
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Darn it! da board won't let me post html tonite!

[ 28. September 2002, 05:12: Message edited by: LLigetfa ]
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#93413 - 2002-09-28 11:26 AM Re: Slow night eh!
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no when you are sleeping I'm only one here...
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#93414 - 2002-09-28 02:28 PM Re: Slow night eh!
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hey, I'm back. Now no one else is here. [Frown]
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#93415 - 2002-09-28 03:05 PM Re: Slow night eh!
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ping [Wink]
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#93416 - 2002-09-28 03:53 PM Re: Slow night eh!
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Reply from LLigetfa: bytes=32 time=2880000ms TTL=127
Reply from LLigetfa: bytes=32 time=90ms TTL=127
Reply from LLigetfa: bytes=32 time=90ms TTL=127
Reply from LLigetfa: bytes=32 time=90ms TTL=127
[Razz]

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#93417 - 2002-09-28 09:48 PM Re: Slow night eh!
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where you get that 90ms?
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#93418 - 2002-09-28 11:40 PM Re: Slow night eh!
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Did someone say it was quiet on the board today ? Howard ... whats up dude ?
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#93419 - 2002-09-29 01:31 AM Re: Slow night eh!
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Daughter is having a sleep over tonight. Just replentished my Scotch. And the board is dead.
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#93420 - 2002-09-29 04:16 AM Re: Slow night eh!
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hey hobu got any of that scotch left over ?
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#93421 - 2002-09-29 05:04 AM Re: Slow night eh!
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Opened the wine this evening. I am saving my Single Malt for a quiet evening when I can listen to my music undisturbed and write some code.
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#93422 - 2002-09-29 05:12 AM Re: Slow night eh!
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Yeah - nothing like a few tunes, a nice drink, and some coding - the best part of dee day.

Im trying to get to the bottom of this "silencing COM objects" thingy ... I think it doesn't work after all ... got to do some testing with IE or EXCEL.

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#93423 - 2002-09-29 05:15 AM Re: Slow night eh!
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You're so damn dedicated. When you finish the KixForms update, do you thing you might look at the lanman thing again?
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#93424 - 2002-09-29 05:19 AM Re: Slow night eh!
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Was thinking about that the other day ... was thinking maybe about just including it as a seperate module inside Kixforms ... ie:

$form = createobject("kixtart.form")

$lanman = createobject("kixtart.lanman")

all hosted within the same DLL ... the lanman stuff is mostly just wrapping anyways ... except the hash stuff we were talking about ...

But whether its embedded or stand-alone, still need someone to work-out the object model ... which can sometimes be the toughest part.

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#93425 - 2002-09-29 05:23 AM Re: Slow night eh!
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Actually ... its funny ... right now im working on implementing a Collection in Kixforms ... you know:

code:
For Each $Item In $ListView.Items
? $Item.Text
Next

kinda thingy ... that might actually be the best route to go for lanman:

code:
For Each $Thing in $LanMan.Whatever
$Thing.SomeThing
Next

Yeah - collections might be the ticket.

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#93426 - 2002-09-29 05:26 AM Re: Slow night eh!
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The next time I get a case-o-beer I'll see if I can start the preliminary design. Can't promise much. I'm just a COM novice and don't know much about OOP, but I think that I can make some decisions about how "I" would like to code the methods and properties.

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#93427 - 2002-09-29 05:40 AM Re: Slow night eh!
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Time to turn-in. I have to get up early to cook breakfast for the kids. Happy coding [Wink]
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#93428 - 2002-09-29 05:40 AM Re: Slow night eh!
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Yeah - what I did (still do) with the Kixforms object model is I just fireup notepad and start coding away - pretend coding - this is how I would like to see it work - not high-level stuff but low-level code. Then I print it out and sleep on it (not literally mind you - but I have heard of some folk that do that) ... then make revisions - tweaks - changes - then its gold man.

ps. I've learned something very interesting with this Collection stuff (the for-each-in contruct). You know how COM Automation can be really slow ... every method and property name has to be parsed and looked-up and dispatched blah-blah very slow stuff.

Well Collections are kinda different - when one starts enumerating a collection - the interface is a very fast - like calling an API ... should run at like compiled exe speeds. The lesson here is that we should use Collections in scripting languages as much as possible ...

Remember we were talking about a HASH object - with properties and methods - well that would be in order of magnitude slower than a collection would be - big, big difference in speed.

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