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#88574 - 2002-10-08 08:56 PM Kixforms - Whats the "view" on "listviews"
Shawn Shawn Administrator Registered: 1999-08-13 Posts: 8611	For anybody that has had a chance to play with forms listviews, was just wondering what (if any) the feedback was. Right now - the listview has a couple of issues that I've either fixed, or that am in the middle of fixing (fe sorting has some issues). But I mean just in general terms, specifically in regards to the interface itself (methods and properties) ... was it a mistake to go dotnet or would have an Excel type interface been a better approach ? The one thing I would like to see more of are the one-shot calls, fe to create some columns: $list.columns.count = 3 $list.columns.text = "Name","Address","Phone" $list.columns.alignment = 2,0,2 $list.items.count = 100 that sorta thingy ... any other comments good, bad or indifferent [actually - would rather hear bad than indifferent ]
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#88575 - 2002-10-08 10:44 PM Re: Kixforms - Whats the "view" on "listviews"
Chris S. Chris S. MM club member Registered: 2002-03-18 Posts: 2368 Loc: Earth	Well, me likey the ListViews very much. I think the dotnet approach is the right way to go. I like the $object.property.property.... stuff. BTW, I think I found another bug in 2.1. I did a FileSaveDialog and the 'Save as file type' dropdown has some funky characters in there. I went back to 2.0.5 and they weren't in there.
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#88576 - 2002-10-08 11:30 PM Re: Kixforms - Whats the "view" on "listviews"
Lonkero Lonkero KiX Master Guru Registered: 2001-06-05 Posts: 22346 Loc: OK	so, how is nice collections: $form.control(12).property(38).property=2 [ 08. October 2002, 23:31: Message edited by: Lonkero ] _________________________ ! download KiXnet
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#88577 - 2002-10-09 12:26 AM Re: Kixforms - Whats the "view" on "listviews"
Shawn Shawn Administrator Registered: 1999-08-13 Posts: 8611	Chris, yeah - didn't see that specific FileSave Dialog problem yet (ps are you able to repro it consistently?) ... but I think I got some issues with internal string types right now ... there will definitely be a few more maintainance builds over the next few weeks. I would like to get into the habit of releasing a new build every weekend. So great ... well continue down the dotnet path for now ... think I will implement some of those one-shot function calls (think Jooel was suggesting some of those a few days ago) ... kix on !
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#88578 - 2002-10-09 12:43 AM Re: Kixforms - Whats the "view" on "listviews"
Shawn Shawn Administrator Registered: 1999-08-13 Posts: 8611	Its ok Chris - got it.
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#88579 - 2002-10-09 12:49 AM Re: Kixforms - Whats the "view" on "listviews"
Shawn Shawn Administrator Registered: 1999-08-13 Posts: 8611	Chris - if you put a trailing "\|" at the end of the filter string ... does that fix it ? [ 09. October 2002, 00:53: Message edited by: Shawn ]
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#88580 - 2002-10-09 01:03 AM Re: Kixforms - Whats the "view" on "listviews"
Chris S. Chris S. MM club member Registered: 2002-03-18 Posts: 2368 Loc: Earth	Yeah, that fixed it, but it definetely changed from 2.0.5 to 2.1.0. I reproduced it by going back a version and testing it.
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#88581 - 2002-10-09 01:25 AM Re: Kixforms - Whats the "view" on "listviews"
Shawn Shawn Administrator Registered: 1999-08-13 Posts: 8611	oh yeah - i believe you - the trailing \| bar thingy just stopped it from failing, thats all.
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#88582 - 2002-10-09 02:14 AM Re: Kixforms - Whats the "view" on "listviews"
Chris S. Chris S. MM club member Registered: 2002-03-18 Posts: 2368 Loc: Earth	Whew. I'm not going crazy then.
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#88583 - 2002-10-09 02:40 AM Re: Kixforms - Whats the "view" on "listviews"
Lonkero Lonkero KiX Master Guru Registered: 2001-06-05 Posts: 22346 Loc: OK	shawn, off topic question. have you cookies disabled in your browser? _________________________ ! download KiXnet
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#88584 - 2002-10-09 02:44 AM Re: Kixforms - Whats the "view" on "listviews"
Shawn Shawn Administrator Registered: 1999-08-13 Posts: 8611	yes - I just tossed my cookies
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#88585 - 2002-10-09 02:47 AM Re: Kixforms - Whats the "view" on "listviews"
Lonkero Lonkero KiX Master Guru Registered: 2001-06-05 Posts: 22346 Loc: OK	no wonder the board gives everytime I try to see where are you: "This user has not been here recently." even now, when you just replied. _________________________ ! download KiXnet
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#88586 - 2002-10-09 10:34 AM Re: Kixforms - Whats the "view" on "listviews"
Jochen Jochen KiX Supporter Registered: 2000-03-17 Posts: 6380 Loc: Stuttgart, Germany	Dotnet style is just Goofy ! How about : $List.ColumnHeaders.Visible , defaults to yes ? J. _________________________
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#88587 - 2002-10-09 03:15 PM Re: Kixforms - Whats the "view" on "listviews"
Shawn Shawn Administrator Registered: 1999-08-13 Posts: 8611	j - you mean - pre-populate the listview with columns ? By default, list views don't have any columns - have to manually add them yourself. This is more a behavior of Windows than dotnet. Is that what you mean ?
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#88588 - 2002-10-09 03:25 PM Re: Kixforms - Whats the "view" on "listviews"
Jochen Jochen KiX Supporter Registered: 2000-03-17 Posts: 6380 Loc: Stuttgart, Germany	no, I just wanted a way to disable (not display) column headers in report view ... we had that last week in discussion , remember ? (Having the actual running network games sorted by column would blew the logic in that hearts options, join network game and all that ) J. _________________________
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#88589 - 2002-10-09 03:27 PM Re: Kixforms - Whats the "view" on "listviews"
Lonkero Lonkero KiX Master Guru Registered: 2001-06-05 Posts: 22346 Loc: OK	jochen, could you make it use some socket or other stuff to really get it networked. would like to play on silent nights against some of the oldies... _________________________ ! download KiXnet
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#88590 - 2002-10-09 03:31 PM Re: Kixforms - Whats the "view" on "listviews"
Jochen Jochen KiX Supporter Registered: 2000-03-17 Posts: 6380 Loc: Stuttgart, Germany	hmm ... that would need a costum snapin dll, no ? Bad thing is that my coding experiences are not that good regarding c / c++ / c# etc. I would have done that long time ago if I were able to ... _________________________
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#88591 - 2002-10-09 03:33 PM Re: Kixforms - Whats the "view" on "listviews"
Lonkero Lonkero KiX Master Guru Registered: 2001-06-05 Posts: 22346 Loc: OK	well, does it need? it could be little slow, but normal socket-dlls should do the job. {edit} like if the new admin.dll will get wider socket functions... telnet would be good enough... to make it really work, it could use ports like 22... now as think of it, it would need it's own pretty complex routine, but, should work though... [ 09. October 2002, 15:35: Message edited by: Lonkero ] _________________________ ! download KiXnet
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#88592 - 2002-10-09 03:35 PM Re: Kixforms - Whats the "view" on "listviews"
Jochen Jochen KiX Supporter Registered: 2000-03-17 Posts: 6380 Loc: Stuttgart, Germany	dunno ... will see (will stick to ini file untill) Hey, another topic hijacked [ 09. October 2002, 15:38: Message edited by: jpols ] _________________________
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#88593 - 2002-10-09 03:44 PM Re: Kixforms - Whats the "view" on "listviews"
Shawn Shawn Administrator Registered: 1999-08-13 Posts: 8611	j - a property to disable column headers was always in the plan - just haven't implemented it yet. might want to see if Howards admin dll can push data through sockets - in terms of the dotnet stuff - i researched and studied a whole bunch of different interfaces for the listview. Everything from VB6 to Excel to MSFlexGrid to Custom third party grids. At the end of the day, it really came down to the dotnet or the Excel interface. And really, the only big difference was in the naming scheme, fe to set a text value in Excel vs Forms: excel: $list.rows(1).cells(1).value = "j" forms: $list.items(1).subitems(1).text = "j" this is the kind of discussion i was hoping to generate ... the interface makes or breaks the component (imho) and I want to do whats right in terms of having the best interface for the job. [ 09. October 2002, 15:48: Message edited by: Shawn ]
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