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#86608 - 2002-07-08 11:14 PM Re: IDispatch errors using 4.10(Final)
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mca, ok.
so will wait for 4.11 before update [Wink]

don't need the macro's but other thinks in the wishlist...

cheers,
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#86609 - 2002-07-08 11:28 PM Re: IDispatch errors using 4.10(Final)
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KiXtart 4.10 build 99 seems to work, at least the macro issues seem to be resolved.
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#86610 - 2002-07-08 11:31 PM Re: IDispatch errors using 4.10(Final)
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Dear Shawn,

Still the same problem in this latest build?
Can be useful for Ruud.
greetings.
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#86611 - 2002-07-08 11:56 PM Re: IDispatch errors using 4.10(Final)
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mca, there is no reason to think that this error has disappeared.
ruud has allready said he will change behaviour on empty-valuetype behaviour and this looks somewhat same kindof problem. as the output can't be produced to screen...

anyway, this is actually error in syntax rather than kix-code.

have to wait for ruud's reply on your post I quess...
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#86612 - 2002-07-09 01:49 AM Re: IDispatch errors using 4.10(Final)
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While I agree that it is a syntax error, it wasn't until 4.10 came out. That should warrant at least a blurb in "What's New."
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#86613 - 2002-07-09 01:52 AM Re: IDispatch errors using 4.10(Final)
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You must only wait for the reaction of Ruud.
I think his reaction will be there in the morning.

We must prevent a situation that a significant (new) problem exist it this latest build.
Our scripts are working great with it. Tomorrow we will implement it our production environments,
when no new problems will come up.
greetings.

[ 09 July 2002, 01:54: Message edited by: MCA ]
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#86614 - 2002-07-09 04:15 AM Re: IDispatch errors using 4.10(Final)
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Chris, have you tried the emergency patch, 4.10a, available from scriptlogic ? Last I heard, Ruud was working on a related problem, for version 4.11, wondered if it's already fixed in 4.10a ... have you tried your old script with that ?
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#86615 - 2002-07-09 04:27 AM Re: IDispatch errors using 4.10(Final)
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Dear Shawn,

The emergency patch can also download from our site. We extend it also. We call it kix410a.zip.
When we read this topic back our question is: inspires the kixtart 4.10 build 98 release you
about an old problem?
We become very active when possible an new emergency from Ruud is necessary.

Shawn, do you have still the problem?
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#86616 - 2002-07-09 04:55 AM Re: IDispatch errors using 4.10(Final)
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Well, I personally don't have a problem - I was hoping Chris could test his "old" script with the latest and greatest build ... to see if things worked, like they did under 4.02 ...
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#86617 - 2002-07-09 06:40 AM Re: IDispatch errors using 4.10(Final)
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Thanks Shawn,

It looks like a the first sight that there is a problem with the latest kixtart release, but
it is possible a problem with an add-on.

Some good questions are:
  • who guarantees related kixtart tools like f.e. KixGui, kixref & kixstrip?
  • how can I reduce dependencies of such tools?
  • what is done or not done?
  • what are the most common used tools?
Our opinion:
  • of course the creators of those tools. also it will be nice to know what
    the support level is.
    of course you must know most of those freeware tools voluntary.
    of course some third party software isn't any problem at all, because they
    simply generate output which is processing by your script.
  • use f.e. a variable to execute or bypass code which has relations which
    such tools.
  • done using tools with an acceptable support level.
    not done using tools which requires great effort by creator, for your
    script and impact for your environment when it isn't working anymore.
    an alternative can be: running different kind of kixtart releases.
  • it will be nice when a poll will created about
    - what are the know kixtart tools
    - what is the user group
    - who is the creator
    - what is the support level (suggest to determine it after a poll)
    - can "tool" be modified by you
    A short list of tools, add-on, etc.:
    - kixcrypt/wkixcrypt
    - kixref
    - kixstrip
    - kix???update/kix???registry
    - kixlib32
    - kixforms
    - kixwinvb
    - kixgui
    - kixhelp.chm (from Scriptlogic or other site)
    - kix_starters
    - BBCodeParser
    - jmail
    - w32time
    Are we missing something for the list? After your feedback we create a poll of
    it.
greetings.
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#86618 - 2002-07-09 07:28 AM Re: IDispatch errors using 4.10(Final)
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Hi everyone,

just wanted to confirm that the 'error' returned by the original script is expected behaviour.

Whenever you do not assign the return value of a function call or COM-method to a variable, KiXtart tries to evaluate an expression of type string in order to display it on the console. In this particular case, because the expression consists of an IDispatch pointer, KiXtart throws an error because there is no way to convert the pointer to a string (and the pointer apparently has no default property...).

Hope this clarifies/confirms things.

Let me know if you think there is anything else in this thread that indicates some kind of problem in 4.10.

Kind regards,

Ruud

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#86619 - 2002-07-09 11:19 AM Re: IDispatch errors using 4.10(Final)
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ruud, that was the case of this thread.

and thanks of clarification in here.
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