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#86548 - 2002-07-03 02:55 PM Writing to CD with script
Chris S. Chris S. MM club member Registered: 2002-03-18 Posts: 2368 Loc: Earth	My director had the idea of purchasing all new PCs in our organization with CD-Writers for the purpose of supplying our end-users with a means for personal backup. Not really the best scenario for backup IMHO, but he's the director. Anyway, he wants me to try and script something. The CD-R's come with Roxio ECDC Basic 5.2. I've noticed that there are some potentially scriptable objects within the DLL's for ECDC. I've looked on Google, but haven't found anything. Has anyone here tried to do anything like this? I'd like to suggest a better writing utility, but money is limited. They probably wouldn't spring for a better CD-R utility. [ 03 July 2002, 14:55: Message edited by: Chris S. ]
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#86549 - 2002-07-03 03:56 PM Re: Writing to CD with script
BrianTX BrianTX Korg Regular Registered: 2002-04-01 Posts: 895	I haven't seen command-line options or documentation on how to burn a cd with roxio products from the command line. Most if not all command line CDR utilities are written for linux. So, it may be possible to port them to win32 or to run them on win32 under cygwin (a unix environment on win32). I realize this isn't a great solution, but it's all I've found in this area so far. Brian
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#86550 - 2002-07-03 04:13 PM Re: Writing to CD with script
Sealeopard Sealeopard KiX Master Registered: 2001-04-25 Posts: 11165 Loc: Boston, MA, USA	Since you are using a CD-RW, I would suggest to use a RW-CD and just write to it as if it would be a regular drive. They are normally preformatted and thus don't require initialization. Then, don't install any type of CD-burining software, just the software part to enable writing to the CD-RW in RW mode. This would also prevent users from misusing the CD-RW to burn other things. _________________________ There are two types of vessels, submarines and targets.
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#86551 - 2002-07-03 04:13 PM Re: Writing to CD with script
Chris S. Chris S. MM club member Registered: 2002-03-18 Posts: 2368 Loc: Earth	Well, I certainly appreciate you taking the time to look. I'd love to use VOB InstantCD because it comes with a SDK with all the properties defined and everything. I may end up having to suggest it.
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#86552 - 2002-07-03 04:19 PM Re: Writing to CD with script
Chris S. Chris S. MM club member Registered: 2002-03-18 Posts: 2368 Loc: Earth	That's a good idea Jens and I did find a script on Google for using that idea. The only thing that worries me is if the user's "Docs" folder is larger than the capacity of the RW disc. I'll play around with that.
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#86553 - 2002-07-03 04:35 PM Re: Writing to CD with script
Sealeopard Sealeopard KiX Master Registered: 2001-04-25 Posts: 11165 Loc: Boston, MA, USA	You can alwqsys check for the size of the folder to be backed up. If the foldersize is bigger than the CD-RW capacity then you'll have a problem anyway since you will have the user to switch CD-RWs. A much better way might be to have a central tape backup and back up the documents folders to tape through a hidden share for example. This approach would be much less error prone and the investment would be less in the long run. (E.g. 20 x CD-RW drive = $1000, low-end tape backup system with 60GB capacity ~$1000). Managers like high ROIs! [ 03 July 2002, 16:36: Message edited by: sealeopard ] _________________________ There are two types of vessels, submarines and targets.
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#86554 - 2002-07-03 04:51 PM Re: Writing to CD with script
Chris S. Chris S. MM club member Registered: 2002-03-18 Posts: 2368 Loc: Earth	Tried that argument. I can't seem to convince the PHB's. They seem to think that since upgrading the CDRom to a CDR/RW is only around $30 that it's cheaper. Nevermind the fact that it's harder to manage, lack of control over the backup, decentralized solution, security risks of putting backups in the hands of a potentially disgruntled employee, etc. Politically, its easier to add $30-$60 dollars per PC order than to implement an enterprise-wide solution that does it right.
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#86555 - 2002-07-03 06:19 PM Re: Writing to CD with script
Sealeopard Sealeopard KiX Master Registered: 2001-04-25 Posts: 11165 Loc: Boston, MA, USA	You can always twist the truth. Just tell him the centralized backup will not interfere with regular work hours, users don't have to worry about backups, it can back up more than 650MB, it comes with a new shiny Ferrari,... _________________________ There are two types of vessels, submarines and targets.
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#86556 - 2002-07-08 06:02 PM Re: Writing to CD with script
Radimus Radimus Moderator Registered: 2000-01-06 Posts: 5187 Loc: Tampa, FL	All you need to install would be DirectCD... leave out all the regular burning software. Is you manager aware of all the issues involving security of your data at your company?? the potential for any employee to dump 700mb of potentially confidential data per CD and walk it out the door. Then there is the piracy issues, if everyone has CDRWs, then they can be using company equipment to make copies of copywrited software or music? a few 'trusted' individuals is one thing, but everyone??? This is a REAL issue, with real repercussions... Couldn't a second HD be added to the box instead, and then script the backup/file copy utility?? It has to be cheaper than CDRWs and a supply cabinet full of blank CDs. _________________________ How to ask questions the smart way <-----------> Before you ask
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#86557 - 2002-07-08 06:06 PM Re: Writing to CD with script
Chris S. Chris S. MM club member Registered: 2002-03-18 Posts: 2368 Loc: Earth	All arguments I've made. His response was, "Well, if they give their two weeks notice, they have that time to dump data to diskettes, zip drives, etc." Sigh. Unfortunately, he seems really resolved on this. Maybe I should get Info-Security involved. Unfortunately (as well), the IS guy was incompetant AND he just quit.
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#86558 - 2002-07-08 06:19 PM Re: Writing to CD with script
Radimus Radimus Moderator Registered: 2000-01-06 Posts: 5187 Loc: Tampa, FL	Let him order what he wants... Once the RIAA or the Microsoft police send the company a hate letter (or a current employee dumps the company's customer account DB to disk when he leaves to work for a competitor), you can have a yard sale with all those 'extra' burners. And yes, zips are an issue also, as well as the happy PDAs with 256mb compactflash cards. It all comes down to, how important is your data. _________________________ How to ask questions the smart way <-----------> Before you ask
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