Guys,
Just ot get back to the first example,
$objRec is in fact an object, and the number you got is the memory address of this one

The VB script automaticaly launch this command when you called the object:
$objRec("field 1")
that's why you got the value

You'll need to do this explicitly with kixtart :
$objRec("REC_COUNT")

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? getobject(Kixtart.org.Signature)