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#44260 - 2003-08-20 02:05 PM General Problem with 4.21?
Skatterbrainz Skatterbrainz Starting to like KiXtart Registered: 2002-10-17 Posts: 172 Loc: Virginia, USA	I'm not sure where this should go or if it's worth posting but I need some help. Is there anything particular I should look for when Kix32 will not execute properly for a given user? More specifically, I can create a script like this... code: ? "Hello World" ? Sleep 10 ? "Finished!" ? Exit And it will work fine for everyone but one user. When that one user logs in, all that happens is a brief command window flashes with an error message and dissappears. I've tried adding DEBUG ON at the top, but it makes no difference. What's really odd is that if the user forces the script from a command window or from Start/Run it works fine. It only dies during a logon and on any workstation (2000 or XP). Anything I should look for? _________________________ silence is golden, but duct tape is silver
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#44261 - 2003-08-20 02:07 PM Re: General Problem with 4.21?
Kdyer Kdyer KiX Supporter Registered: 2001-01-03 Posts: 6241 Loc: Tigard, OR	Did you try to put an - @error+' - '+@serror ? To see what the error state is. Also, what is the other code leading to this? Kent [ 20. August 2003, 14:08: Message edited by: kdyer ] _________________________ Utilize these resources: UDFs (Full List) KiXtart FAQ & How to's
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#44262 - 2003-08-20 02:08 PM Re: General Problem with 4.21?
Skatterbrainz Skatterbrainz Starting to like KiXtart Registered: 2002-10-17 Posts: 172 Loc: Virginia, USA	No I didn't. Where should I put that, at the beginning or end or in the middle? _________________________ silence is golden, but duct tape is silver
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#44263 - 2003-08-20 02:12 PM Re: General Problem with 4.21?
Lonkero Lonkero KiX Master Guru Registered: 2001-06-05 Posts: 22346 Loc: OK	nope. this seems that there is something different with that user. it indeed looks like kixtart is unable to find the script. check the users logonscript entry in usermanager and what OS he uses. also, if you use batch file to call kix, check that out too. anyway, the entry in usermanager is my quess. _________________________ ! download KiXnet
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#44264 - 2003-08-20 02:14 PM Re: General Problem with 4.21?
Shawn Shawn Administrator Registered: 1999-08-13 Posts: 8611	Well, I would start with the obvious and fireup usrmgr and compare the loginscript path for this user with a working user, then would compare group memberships between this user and a good user. Work your way from beginning to end. Sounds to me like your kixscript isn't being executed at all. Might check the BAT file that launches it. -Shawn
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#44265 - 2003-08-20 02:17 PM Re: General Problem with 4.21?
Skatterbrainz Skatterbrainz Starting to like KiXtart Registered: 2002-10-17 Posts: 172 Loc: Virginia, USA	The network is NT4, and the user has tried on XP and 2000 workstations with the same result, even with the basic "Hello World" script as kixtart.kix. The usermgr profile shows "Kix32" as the logon script, which is the same as all other users. The user is a member of Domain Admins as well. It's weird that it only bombs out on the initial login. Once it fails, if they call it %logonserver%\netlogon\kix32 it works fine. _________________________ silence is golden, but duct tape is silver
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#44266 - 2003-08-20 02:17 PM Re: General Problem with 4.21?
Lonkero Lonkero KiX Master Guru Registered: 2001-06-05 Posts: 22346 Loc: OK	heh, repeat is the mother of... children! _________________________ ! download KiXnet
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#44267 - 2003-08-20 02:18 PM Re: General Problem with 4.21?
Kdyer Kdyer KiX Supporter Registered: 2001-01-03 Posts: 6241 Loc: Tigard, OR	Our good friend Les offers some good advice.. Catch that error message that flashes for a second KiXtart FAQ & How to's HTH, Kent _________________________ Utilize these resources: UDFs (Full List) KiXtart FAQ & How to's
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#44268 - 2003-08-20 02:19 PM Re: General Problem with 4.21?
Kdyer Kdyer KiX Supporter Registered: 2001-01-03 Posts: 6241 Loc: Tigard, OR	If we go back to the title of this post, had this worked before for him? Kent _________________________ Utilize these resources: UDFs (Full List) KiXtart FAQ & How to's
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#44269 - 2003-08-20 02:31 PM Re: General Problem with 4.21?
Lonkero Lonkero KiX Master Guru Registered: 2001-06-05 Posts: 22346 Loc: OK	the error that flashes: "could not find/open script" _________________________ ! download KiXnet
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#44270 - 2003-08-20 02:32 PM Re: General Problem with 4.21?
Skatterbrainz Skatterbrainz Starting to like KiXtart Registered: 2002-10-17 Posts: 172 Loc: Virginia, USA	Yes, it worked fine a day before and the scripts were not changed in between. I tried wrapping the call within a logon.bat file using %logonserver%\netlogon\kix32 %logonserver%\netlogon\kixtart.kix with BREAK ON added at the top. Still bombs out too quickly to capture the error. I can only see a millisecond display and enough to see that there is some error message in white text on the black console background, but not long enough to read it. PAUSE doesn't seem to have any effect either. The error message appears to be longer than that. [ 20. August 2003, 14:33: Message edited by: DaveS ] _________________________ silence is golden, but duct tape is silver
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#44271 - 2003-08-20 02:33 PM Re: General Problem with 4.21?
Shawn Shawn Administrator Registered: 1999-08-13 Posts: 8611	You have this for the loginpath: %logonserver%\netlogon\kix32 or do you have more ? If this is all you got, then your relying on Kixtart's default behavior for finding files, which looks for %username%.kix then kixtart.kix, but what happens if you fully qualify the path for this user ?
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#44272 - 2003-08-20 02:37 PM Re: General Problem with 4.21?
Howard Bullock Howard Bullock KiX Supporter Registered: 2000-09-15 Posts: 5809 Loc: Harrisburg, PA USA	Based on your description of the problem of the problem following a single user across NON-Win9x clients, I suspect a problem related to permissions and the user. Please check the permissions on the users HOME share and directories. When the DOS window for the logon script opens, it does so in the user's home directory. If the user does not have permissions then the starting application aborts. [ 20. August 2003, 15:08: Message edited by: Howard Bullock ] _________________________ Home page: http://www.kixhelp.com/hb/
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#44273 - 2003-08-20 02:42 PM Re: General Problem with 4.21?
Lonkero Lonkero KiX Master Guru Registered: 2001-06-05 Posts: 22346 Loc: OK	sure? doh, that would be awesome. so making a bookie address for homedir in usermanager will disable logonscript for user if bat-file used? _________________________ ! download KiXnet
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#44274 - 2003-08-20 02:53 PM Re: General Problem with 4.21?
Howard Bullock Howard Bullock KiX Supporter Registered: 2000-09-15 Posts: 5809 Loc: Harrisburg, PA USA	Yes I am sure, I have seen in many times when home directories are moved from server to server or new home shares are creatred and perms are not correct. The user has to be able to connect to the specified share but not have permissions on the underlying directory structure. [ 20. August 2003, 15:03: Message edited by: Howard Bullock ] _________________________ Home page: http://www.kixhelp.com/hb/
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#44275 - 2003-08-20 03:13 PM Re: General Problem with 4.21?
Lonkero Lonkero KiX Master Guru Registered: 2001-06-05 Posts: 22346 Loc: OK	that's why leaving the value blank is good choise. anyway, thanks. learned something today too _________________________ ! download KiXnet
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#44276 - 2003-08-20 04:16 PM Re: General Problem with 4.21?
Skatterbrainz Skatterbrainz Starting to like KiXtart Registered: 2002-10-17 Posts: 172 Loc: Virginia, USA	Here is an event log I've managed to uncover for this user on every machine they log onto. Hopefully it will shine a light on the possible culprit and someone can point me in the right direction? Event Type: Audit Failure Event Source: Security Event Category: Privilege Use Event ID: 577 Date: 8/20/2003 Time: 9:58:01 AM User: rodriguezm Computer: SYSTEM1 Description: Privileged Service Called: Server: Security Service: - Primary User Name: rodriguezm Primary Domain: AMSEC Primary Logon ID: (0x0,0x2331ACD) Client User Name: - Client Domain: - Client Logon ID: - Privileges: SeIncreaseBasePriorityPrivilege Data: _________________________ silence is golden, but duct tape is silver
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#44277 - 2003-08-20 04:20 PM Re: General Problem with 4.21?
Lonkero Lonkero KiX Master Guru Registered: 2001-06-05 Posts: 22346 Loc: OK	access denied. could you check on the users. what groups they belong to and this user does not. _________________________ ! download KiXnet
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#44278 - 2003-08-20 04:22 PM Re: General Problem with 4.21?
Sealeopard Sealeopard KiX Master Registered: 2001-04-25 Posts: 11164 Loc: Boston, MA, USA	See http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=577&source=security So, is this happening for one user on different computers of for the one user on the same computer? Is that user able to run a simple login batch script (no KiXtart at all) that only contains something like code: echo testing login script pause _________________________ There are two types of vessels, submarines and targets.
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#44279 - 2003-08-20 05:34 PM Re: General Problem with 4.21?
Skatterbrainz Skatterbrainz Starting to like KiXtart Registered: 2002-10-17 Posts: 172 Loc: Virginia, USA	Same (one) user on any workstation. Haven't tried a "plain" bat file yet. If I could get the command window to stay up long enough to read the stupid error I could do more I'm sure. I've tried DEBUG ON, but it ignores it until the script is called "manually" (as opposed to invoked during logon). The script runs perfectly fine when called "manually" by this user. It only fails during the logon. [ 20. August 2003, 17:38: Message edited by: DaveS ] _________________________ silence is golden, but duct tape is silver
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