I havent try to be honest.. I have had a few issuses with machines off the network and blue screening (oh happy days!!) So i have looked for each program individually and copied all there odbc.ini files back to my pc for me to note...nearly finished now, thanks anyway guys ( I will try your suggestions when I have a few minutes spare, thanks again

Aaron
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