thanks NTDOC

yup that works. the suggestion you made

code:
if ingroup("\\" + @Wksta + "\Administrators")<>0
  do some stuff
endif
has this reliably worked. I am currently using shell for deciding wether the user is a member of several other local groups. I want to use whatever will give me the most acurate results.

thanks
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