What is the proper procedure for posting code to this BBS ? I know about the code/slash-code syntax and that, but when one actually copies the code in, what's the proper way of doing it ?

Cutting and pasting straight from notepad or write doesn't seem to work very well ( for me anyway ). When I try to copy/paste the code back into my machine, the crlf's get all screwed up !

Am I missing something here ?

cj/bryce/mca/box:

You guys seem to have a handle on it. How do you post code ?

Shawn.

i think if the lines get over a certain amount of chars the word wrap will screw it
up ....
the first problems i have was shawns leap year snippet , then came cj's tictactoe.scr
[it took me at least 1/2 hour to reformat it]

the best results with 'big' code grabbing from this bb i got by pasting it into 'full-screen' Winword

so far so good

Jochen

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Like you I find when I cut and paste code from the forum topic to notepad there are about 10 spaces added to the left of each line. Don't know why but have learned to live with it.

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BoxKite
FACTA NON VERBA

Another way for insertion of line breaks is.

• use MsWord text.
  
• use proper font-size (f.e. size=8) and save as.
  
• select as 'save as filetype' TextOnly with Line Breaks.
  
• open this file by notepad.
  
• check layout and after statisfaction you can do a copy/paste action.
  

Greetings.

[This message has been edited by MCA (edited 20 June 2000).]

What would be a`"proper font" ?

Courier, Courier New, Other ?

Shawn.

NON-TRUE-TYPE ?????????

will try it with 'Fixedsys'

ahhh,stop, by the way gang :

what is the proper 'chr(xxx)' for © ???

Thanx
Jochen

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• font type: Arial (so you see the effects of a proportional font)
  
• font size: 8
  

Example of a font "Arial" with size "5":

code:

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? only encrypted code is located in the common folder (f.e. NETLOGON). code which is very hard to modify. during decryption you can check of code has been 
changed or becomes damaged.
? a kixtart script for decryption is very slow. by testing a short script it takes too must time and it is comsuming a great lot of CPU time. a short script 
for me is about 250 lines.
by using another program language we get an enormous speed up. a script of 10.000 lines can be decrypted within 2 à 5 sec before starting             
running kix32.exe procedure.
? do not use only XOR encryption. we think about many elements:
stripping Kixstart script first.
f.e. delete empty lines, remove comment statements, remove print statements when you are only using WRITE statements, change nice variable names to meaningless 
variable names (f.e. $x1, $x2, ..., $x999), combining separate lines to one line. compress kixtart script. calculate CRC value of script. encrypt script by XOR 
and/or other encryption techniques with a dynamic password usage.
a dynamic password means: each time you are running the encryption/compression procedure the password will be different, which means the encrypt output file 
contains NEVER the same contents. make it possible to run the procedure over and over, so cracking because harder and harder.
Result of a script of 300.000 bytes is 40.000 bytes after using of compression and encryption techniques. Encryption cost about 10 à 20 seconds.
Decryption cost about 2 à 5 seconds. The processor speeds influences these results.

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Example of a font "Arial" with size "8":

code:

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? only encrypted code is located in the common folder (f.e. NETLOGON). code 
which is very hard to modify. during decryption you can check of code has 
been changed or becomes damaged.
? a kixtart script for decryption is very slow. by testing a short script it 
takes too must time and it is comsuming a great lot of CPU time. a short 
script for me is about 250 lines.
by using another program language we get an enormous speed up. a script of 
10.000 lines can be decrypted within 2 à 5 sec before starting             
running kix32.exe procedure.
? do not use only XOR encryption. we think about many elements:
stripping Kixstart script first.
f.e. delete empty lines, remove comment statements, remove print statements when 
you are only using WRITE statements, change nice variable names to meaningless 
variable names (f.e. $x1, $x2, ..., $x999), combining separate lines to one 
line. compress kixtart script. calculate CRC value of script. encrypt script by 
XOR and/or other encryption techniques with a dynamic password usage.
a dynamic password means: each time you are running the encryption/compression 
procedure the password will be different, which means the encrypt output file 
contains NEVER the same contents. make it possible to run the procedure over and 
over, so cracking because harder and harder.
Result of a script of 300.000 bytes is 40.000 bytes after using of compression 
and encryption techniques. Encryption cost about 10 à 20 seconds.
Decryption cost about 2 à 5 seconds. The processor speeds influences these 
results.

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Greetings.

[This message has been edited by MCA (edited 20 June 2000).]

Your question:

quote:

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what is the proper 'chr(xxx)' for ©

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The standard ASCII table doesn't contain this symbol. so there is no CHR-code.
Greetings.

When you are copy/paste the code back to your machine you must it paste it in MsWord.
I get also the problem with Notepad.
Greetings.

Your question:

quote:
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what is the proper 'chr(xxx)' for ©
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The standard ASCII table doesn't contain this symbol. so there is no CHR-code.
Greetings.

Chr(169)

Code
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Cls
$Chr=0
:Start
$Chr=$CHR+1
? $CHR
? CHR($CHR)
goto start
:End
Exit
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Jos

in the first i tried chr(169)
[Yes,lads and lassies ; I got a charmap too ]

but it returns only 'c' and NOT '©' ....

please don't let me look like a 'dummass' ,
i am just a little 'confusiasted'

Jochen

[b.t.w.: Jos : Your code example will loop infinitely until it logs You OFF!!!]

[This message has been edited by jpols (edited 21 June 2000).]

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Strange in my DOS box I'll get the right caracter. Maybe the Codepage is responsible for that. The code that I posted was to figure out the CHR string with the /d parameter.

Jos

nice to hear something from You again,

ehhh my fonts in my DosBox are Rasterfonts,
hmm, codepage is German [IBM] (Yahh, it is a ThinkPad)
NT=4.0;SP=6a (English).

strange: on my 'BigBlue 300gl' i receive for
chr (169) a '®' where NT=4.0 SP=5 (English)
and codepage = German [Standard] ....

¡I think this is getting babylonic!

Yours etc.
Confucius

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I'll tested it on my Dutch Win95 machine ( Digital )
with dutch codepage 850 ( just typed chcp in the DOS Box ). Once again tested the
1 minute writen schript and i'm sure about CHR(169) on my machine.
I Also Tested it on an Englisch NT 4.0 Server SP4 codepage 850.
The result was the same as on my machine.
My guess is it's the codepage.

Jos

[This message has been edited by Jos (edited 21 June 2000).]

as this conversation is getting more and more out of topic
i will use a simple '(c)' .

Greetings

Gen. Custer (Mrs.)
[CONFUSE-A-CAT-LTD.]

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Posting/retrieving code from this BB system.

:Posting
I will type my message place the
code

/code
And come back and paste from notepad between the two.

Retrieving:
I will copy all code between code /code, run wordpad(write.exe) and paste it into there. then I do a Ctrl-a, ctrl-x, close Wordpad with out saving, and paste it into notepad.

don't know why it works this way......But it will preserve the formatting.

Bryce

[This message has been edited by Bryce (edited 21 June 2000).]

? chr(169)

i get 2 different outputs based on what my selected font is

Running win2000(us version)
Raster fonts = c
Lucida Console = ©

I only have 2 font choices for some weird reason....

thanx (for both replies)

[*customer is satisfied*]

Jochen

[This message has been edited by jpols (edited 21 June 2000).]

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code:

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setascii("on")
$a = 1
cls
while $a < 6       ;Change this value to get more or less numbers
   $y = 1
   while $y <= 80
      $z = 1
      while $z <= 20
         at($z,$y)  "$x " + chr($x)
         $z = $z + 1
         $x = $x + 1
      loop
      $y = $y + 10
   loop
   ? shell "%comspec% /c pause"
   $a = $a + 1
loop
exit

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Don't know what you can do with it.

A nice script which shows exactly the representation of the ASCII-table. ASCII-table part 0..128 fully standard,
ASCII-table 129..256 language depending (= codepage). Mostly in the last part you found changes between the different
languages.
When you get the © character after installation of a specific operating system or a specific language isn't very
useful in my opinion. First you can think it is standard, but after upgrading to another language or operating system
it can be possible that your script runs in an unexpected way.
Scripts for general purpose must only use the standard capabilities of a system.
As alternative symbol for © everybody is using the '(c)' notation. Everybody understand that it is a
copyright mark.
When the © symbol looks like , nobody understands it.

greetings.

[This message has been edited by MCA (edited 21 June 2000).]