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#28618 - 2002-09-10 12:58 AM Help!! Desperate!
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Ok, Ive a big problem that I need sorting. Basically my users are able to access each others work through the file menu in word etc. Can anybody tell me the reg key that switches this off!

Thanks in advance

Steve
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#28619 - 2002-09-09 01:29 PM Re: Help!! Desperate!
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You'll need to supply more info.

Stopping people accessing each others work should be done by setting permissions on the files / shares where the data is stored.

Simply hiding the "last 'n' files" edited is'nt going to do it.

Things like where the files are kept and what your server / client operating systems are will determine what you can do.

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#28620 - 2002-09-09 01:33 PM Re: Help!! Desperate!
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Steve,

do you mean the MRU List in Word???

if so take a look at:
Enhance Security in a Public Access Environment (by MickeySoft)
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#28621 - 2002-09-09 01:35 PM Re: Help!! Desperate!
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No sorry you are right.. The thing is the users and administrator only has access to the folders through permissions as you would expect. However, after one user logs in, and works on a document, the next users logs into the same machine and can open and modify the previous users work they are gaining access through FILE >> menu that drops down in Word 97..

Steve.
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#28622 - 2002-09-09 01:42 PM Re: Help!! Desperate!
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stephen, they might not gain that access.

if the users permissions are correct (no access for everyone), the other users may not access those files.
 
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#28623 - 2002-09-09 01:50 PM Re: Help!! Desperate!
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Tried actually opening a document logged in as a usual user and it loads the previous users documents....

Is their not a reg key that allows you to reset previous users documents to zero it is a setting in tools >> options >> general tab..?
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#28624 - 2002-09-09 01:53 PM Re: Help!! Desperate!
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Where exactly are the files located (server\directory or local hard drive) that you are questioning? What is the operating system of the client where this is happening?
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#28625 - 2002-09-09 01:56 PM Re: Help!! Desperate!
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If you have permissions set such that your users cannot open each others documents there is no way that the application can override it - it is done at a lower level and is not within the application's control.

If the files are being saved to a local drive under Windows 9x (FAT file system) there is no way to apply permissions and the file is pretty much open to anyone. This also applies to temporary files which may be left around after an inelegant exit.

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#28626 - 2002-09-09 02:04 PM Re: Help!! Desperate!
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So I thought the users dirs are stored in \\[server]\[folder]\[userfolders$] and the permissions are user has full control as does administrator and teachers!!

Either way I have tried looking for the reg key for this ooption to no avail...
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#28627 - 2002-09-09 02:08 PM Re: Help!! Desperate!
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You need to verify the file locations and permissions for a file that can be opened in this manner. WORD.exe can not supercede NTFS file permissions.

Please refer to the questions in the message a couple post above.
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#28628 - 2002-09-09 02:33 PM Re: Help!! Desperate!
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Steve,

did you catch my previous post?

It has a URL which shows an example of how to get rid of the MRU list...
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#28629 - 2002-09-09 02:43 PM Re: Help!! Desperate!
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The problem is that users are accessing files they shouldn't be able to.

Removing the MRU list will simply mean that users are less likely to accidentally stumble into others files, it doesn't address the security problem which is what you must address.

If you are going to rely on security by obfuscation (really a very very bad idea [Frown] ) , don't forget other obvious place like Start->Documents and recycle bins.

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#28630 - 2002-09-09 04:03 PM Re: Help!! Desperate!
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Security by obfuscation, or security by ignorance as I prefer to call it, is no security.  No reg key will give you security.  For that, you need to look at NTFS and share permissions.
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#28631 - 2002-12-04 09:24 PM Re: Help!! Desperate!
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Dear,

In a network client/server environment with an unique username/password for each
person it shouldn't be possible, that users see others settings.
Above story looks like that different persons are using same username/password
combination.

To prevent tracing back we are running always our cleanup.kix, which is removing
all kind of recent file lists. Mostly stored in registry or local confi-
guration files. Also "Documents" in "Start Menu" is a place people are liking.

The biggest problem with MS-Word is, that it is storing those MRU info in a binary
file. The other MS-Office programs are using the registry for that kind of informa-
tion, but the way of storing isn't always the same.

Our suggestion for MS-Word is: use policies to set "recent list" value to ZERO in
MS-Word.
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