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#24367 - 2002-07-04 07:43 AM InGroup + Global Groups
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Hi,
I have the following problem:
The Domain into which the users login, is on server1, and the batch file defined for them calls kix script, which is on server2.
Kxrpc service is installed in server1.

The problem is that InGroup for any global group defined for the users failes, though local groups are identified correctly.

Thanks,
V.F.

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#24368 - 2002-07-04 08:32 AM Re: InGroup + Global Groups
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so, why you don't install the rpc service also on server2?

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[ 04 July 2002, 08:32: Message edited by: Lonkero ]
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#24369 - 2002-07-04 09:28 AM Re: InGroup + Global Groups
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I tried.
It doesn't help.

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#24370 - 2002-07-04 09:29 AM Re: InGroup + Global Groups
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P.S.
I encounter this problem only on win95 workstations.

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#24371 - 2002-07-04 09:36 AM Re: InGroup + Global Groups
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mmm...
now rereading your post pops up to my mind something.
windows 95 does not understand the difference between these two... or something like that.

what if you try with:
ingroup("globalgroup_name")

it should return the same as with
ingroup("localgroup_name")
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#24372 - 2002-07-04 09:37 AM Re: InGroup + Global Groups
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On the other server that it does not work on.. Is it the same version of KXRPC as the one that it does work on? May seem like a silly question on this new server, did you start the new KXRPC service too?

Do the client(s) have access to:
KX16.DLL
KX32.DLL
KX95.DLL

as well as KIX32.EXE and are all of these DLLs/EXEs of the same version?

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#24373 - 2002-07-04 10:20 AM Re: InGroup + Global Groups
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The global groups are still not identified.
Workstations has the three dlls, and kix versions are the same.
kxrpc is in status running on both servers.

Thanks,
V.F.

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#24374 - 2002-07-04 10:34 AM Re: InGroup + Global Groups
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mmm...
went to faq and found that if kixrpc is not working the local groups are not workable!
so, the service is running fine...

did you get the groups before you installed the rpc or did you install it before trying without?

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#24375 - 2002-07-05 12:26 AM Re: InGroup + Global Groups
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same results.
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#24376 - 2002-07-05 12:27 AM Re: InGroup + Global Groups
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Now,
for some odd resons i even don't get the local groups!

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#24377 - 2002-07-05 12:29 AM Re: InGroup + Global Groups
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I mean, after starting kixtart again
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#24378 - 2002-07-05 12:30 AM Re: InGroup + Global Groups
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I mean, after starting kxrpc on both servers.
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#24379 - 2002-07-05 12:48 AM Re: InGroup + Global Groups
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huh...
is there something wrong or what [Big Grin]

hey, try out:
kix32 /f

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btw, the kixtart rpc service is needed only on one machine says doc.

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#24380 - 2002-07-04 01:56 PM Re: InGroup + Global Groups
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No difference what so ever
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#24381 - 2002-07-04 02:02 PM Re: InGroup + Global Groups
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what if you un-install the client things of rpc?
like, take out all the kix-dll's and if you have made registry setttings or ini-file or in logon batch set environment for kixrpc...

when you get those all out restart the machine and query the globalgroup it should answer.
if not, then there must be something wrong with the system as it works for others...

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#24382 - 2002-07-04 03:03 PM Re: InGroup + Global Groups
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Terminology questions:

You say the domain is on server 1, so that will mean that the Primary Domain Controller is server1. Is server2 a Backup Domain Controller? If yes, then all Domain Controllers will need the KiXtart RPC service.

Secondly, enable directory replication to replicate the logon script into all NETLOGON folders on all domain controllers.

Thirdly, use a LOGON.BAT file to call the KiXtart script and use a simple test script like
code:
if ingroup("globalgroup_name")
? 'is in group'
else
? 'is not in group'
endif

Also, check the KiXtart Starter's Guide in the FAQ section.
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#24383 - 2002-07-04 03:13 PM Re: InGroup + Global Groups
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jens?

quote:
will need the KiXtart RPC service
where did you get that.
anyway, you are right, it's good to put it on all DC's.

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#24384 - 2002-07-04 05:39 PM Re: InGroup + Global Groups
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Lonkero, if I understood correctly, the problem is with Windows 9x clients. Therefore, the recommended installation is to put the KXRPC on all DC. See KXRPC - Everything you wanted to know about KXRPC.
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#24385 - 2002-07-04 09:39 PM Re: InGroup + Global Groups
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zz...
Are there DLLs in the same folder as where KiX is called from? Also, is there a NetWare client on the Wintendos?
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#24386 - 2002-07-04 10:15 PM Re: InGroup + Global Groups
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jens, you are right like I said. it's recommended but you said:
"If yes, then all Domain Controllers will need the KiXtart RPC service."

and I catched your words as it's not needed.
just recommended.
for more specific explanation see:
http://81.17.37.55/board/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=10;t=000023
the part 2 has more than one option. [Roll Eyes]

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