The 'murder' approach works. Whacking the profile corrects the issue, but yeah, that would piss a bunch-o-people off. What is it, burried in the ntuser.dat or something? Doing persistant mappings & then deleting them doesn't correct the problem, tried that. Don't realy see the userID & password solution as that, a solution, because of the frequency passwords change, and the number of users I have.... Any other ideas?