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#178671 - 2007-08-03 09:59 AM RD /s doesn't seem to handle read-only directories.
Ryan Ryan Fresh Scripter Registered: 2001-11-11 Posts: 42 Loc: the Netherlands	Hi there, It's seems that RD /s doesn't delete read-only directories. Version 4.53 Can someone else confirm this? Situation 1: "C:\Temp\Test", Dir Test is read-only. RD "C:\Temp\Test" /s ErrorCode: 5 Access is denied. Situation 2: "C:\Temp\Test\Sub", Only Dir Sub is read-only. RD "C:\Temp\Test\Sub" /s ErrorCode: 145 The directory is not empty. Manual says it deletes everything, like CMD.EXE's RD /q /s does. I've tested it with, S and H attributes, and no problems. Only R attribute. Thanx, Ryan
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#178674 - 2007-08-03 10:45 AM Re: RD /s doesn't seem to handle read-only directories. [Re: Ryan]
NTDOC NTDOC Administrator Registered: 2000-07-28 Posts: 11634 Loc: Space	Odd, but yes confirmed. RD "C:\TEMP" /S Works correctly and removes all RD "C:\TEMP\TEST" /S Does not work. 5 Access Denied It does remove any files in the folder but not that folder. I will post in beta and point back here.
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#178676 - 2007-08-03 11:55 AM Re: RD /s doesn't seem to handle read-only directories. [Re: NTDOC]
Ryan Ryan Fresh Scripter Registered: 2001-11-11 Posts: 42 Loc: the Netherlands	He NTDoc, Thanx for confirming and posting. Looking forward on 4.60, nice features. Grz Ryan
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#178680 - 2007-08-03 01:28 PM Re: RD /s doesn't seem to handle read-only directories. [Re: Ryan]
Glenn Barnas Glenn Barnas KiX Supporter Registered: 2003-01-28 Posts: 4402 Loc: New Jersey	According to the manual, there is no comparison to "RD /S /Q". Personally, I'd think this is expected behavior - items are marked read-only for a reason. If there isn't a /R switch, then it should not remove read-only items. Both Move and Del commands have specific switches to allow changing R/O files. It might be a nice feature to have a /R switch added to the RD command, but I don't think this is a bug. You can try something like: Code: SetFileAttr($Folder, GetFileAttr($Folder) & 254) Rd /S $Folder to be sure the R/O attribute bit is turned off before you remove the folder. Glenn _________________________ Actually I am a Rocket Scientist! $\:D$
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#178683 - 2007-08-03 02:20 PM Re: RD /s doesn't seem to handle read-only directories. [Re: Glenn Barnas]
Jochen Jochen KiX Supporter Registered: 2000-03-17 Posts: 6380 Loc: Stuttgart, Germany	Quote: items are marked read-only for a reason such as being copied from a CD/DVD? I'd say removing read only files is expected to work by default, as it works also with a shelled RD _________________________
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#178690 - 2007-08-03 11:02 PM Re: RD /s doesn't seem to handle read-only directories. [Re: Jochen]
NTDOC NTDOC Administrator Registered: 2000-07-28 Posts: 11634 Loc: Space	Glenn, there is no /q switch but that's basically because KiXtart is not a batch file and we wouldn't really be interacting with it. I've had a few e-mails and posts here with Ruud on this issue and it should work just fine, but it doesn't. Thus it is a bug (IMHO) RD /S (fixed for 4.53) should remove all. I just never tested the exact same way as here. RD "FOLDER" /S should remove everything regardless of file/folder attribute.
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#178691 - 2007-08-04 01:22 AM Re: RD /s doesn't seem to handle read-only directories. [Re: NTDOC]
Glenn Barnas Glenn Barnas KiX Supporter Registered: 2003-01-28 Posts: 4402 Loc: New Jersey	what??? /q?? I never said Kix RD has a /Q argument.. The original post compared Kix RD to Cmd.exe's RD /s /q. I pointed out that the other Kix commands - Del and Copy - have specific switches to permit modifying file with Read-Only attributes, and that the manual does not compare Kix RD with CMD.EXE's RD function. I'd expect the Kix RD to work the same way as the other built-in commands and require a switch to apply to R/O folder, just like Del requires a /R to delete read-only files. Given the logic, if RD not deleting R/O folders is a bug, why is requiring a special switch for Del and Copy to modify R/O files not a bug? Seems to me that RD is outnumbered two Kix commands to one. Glenn _________________________ Actually I am a Rocket Scientist! $\:D$
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#178695 - 2007-08-04 01:46 AM Re: RD /s doesn't seem to handle read-only directories. [Re: Glenn Barnas]
NTDOC NTDOC Administrator Registered: 2000-07-28 Posts: 11634 Loc: Space	LOL - Okay sorry - thought you were implying something else. Personally I don't care if it requires more switches or not just as long as it works. I don't think it should require any switches to be honest. It should delete everything up to where you said remove, no question, no switches, just do it. RD "C:\TEMP\FOLDER1\FOLDER2" Should remove FOLDER2 and everything in it RD "C:\TEMP" Should remove TEMP regardless of what's in it Thinking of what RD (Remove Directory) is for it doesn't really make sense to me to have an /S switch. If the directory is removed then obviously the other files and folders within are removed as well. The only thing I think might be along those lines is if some file or folder is locked and then maybe have a switch to remove it upon reboot like DEL has.
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#178701 - 2007-08-04 03:38 PM Re: RD /s doesn't seem to handle read-only directories. [Re: NTDOC]
Glenn Barnas Glenn Barnas KiX Supporter Registered: 2003-01-28 Posts: 4402 Loc: New Jersey	I kinda agree - if I run RD, I want it to remove all content regardless of FILE attribute, but if the FOLDER is marked RO, that's when I think it should require a /R switch. I think I'm applying experience from environments outside of just Windows. Windows has always seemd Fast & Loose compared to IX or mainframe environments. Glenn _________________________ Actually* I am a Rocket Scientist! $\:D$
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#178709 - 2007-08-05 10:29 AM Re: RD /s doesn't seem to handle read-only directories. [Re: Glenn Barnas]
NTDOC NTDOC Administrator Registered: 2000-07-28 Posts: 11634 Loc: Space	Well I'm actually of the opposite feeling on that. I'm tired of utils that refuse to delete and you have to go back and double check or run more commands, etc. I said REMOVE - I don't care what is left in there or what attributes it has, REMOVE IT. If I was concerned with the attributes then I'd probably be using a DEL command and paying more attention. RD (IMHO) is and should be a quit asking, just remove command. I don't need or want the underlying OS or other items trying to out think me and "ARE YOU SURE" me till I'm blue in the face. I took the time to code it up, YES I'M SURE. /end rant
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#178712 - 2007-08-05 04:52 PM Re: RD /s doesn't seem to handle read-only directories. [Re: NTDOC]
Glenn Barnas Glenn Barnas KiX Supporter Registered: 2003-01-28 Posts: 4402 Loc: New Jersey	LOL - but you forgot your <rant> tag! Can't stop what you didn't start! $;\)$ Glenn _________________________ Actually I am a Rocket Scientist! $\:D$
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#178714 - 2007-08-05 05:47 PM Re: RD /s doesn't seem to handle read-only directories. [Re: Glenn Barnas]
Les Les KiX Master Registered: 2001-06-11 Posts: 12734 Loc: fortfrances.on.ca	Originally Posted By: Glenn Barnas Can't stop what you didn't start! $;\)$ Yes he can... he's a board administrator. _________________________ Give a man a fish and he will be back for more. Slap him with a fish and he will go away forever.
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