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#175337 - 2007-04-11 06:24 PM Re: Kixtart and Windows Vista [Re: Mart]
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FYI: I did not run into this problem while using a non-gpo login script. (I ran into other problems with Vista, but that is another story.)
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#175338 - 2007-04-11 06:29 PM Re: Kixtart and Windows Vista [Re: Allen]
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Just a guess but maybe this will help.

Deploying Group Policy Using Windows Vista
Group Policy Scripts can fail due to UAC
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#175339 - 2007-04-11 06:37 PM Re: Kixtart and Windows Vista [Re: Mart]
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LOL...

 Quote:

So what do we do to get around this? There are a few different methods:

1. Don't add users to the local Administrators group on the workstation
2. Detect Windows Vista and create a scheduled task to run a logon script via Task Scheduler
3. Disable User Account Control


and the ones they forgot.
4. Shit can Vista
5. Start looking for alternatives to Vista
6. Pray MS finally realizes the UAC is a waste of time and remove it

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#175340 - 2007-04-11 06:38 PM Re: Kixtart and Windows Vista [Re: Mart]
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OK Tha_Duck, I presume there are no misunderstandings and you are doing what should be done. I give up. Sorry.
But as I said, I haven't deployed any Vista yet.

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#175343 - 2007-04-11 11:39 PM Re: Kixtart and Windows Vista [Re: Allen]
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Those methods as described in the article are just crap. I WANT my users to be local admin, I don't want to use scheduled tasks and disabling UAC don't make any difference \:\)

And prais the lord for MS, how do you even want to get rid of it \:\(

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#175344 - 2007-04-11 11:39 PM Re: Kixtart and Windows Vista [Re: Witto]
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No problem mate, thanks for all the help and thinking. I am sure I'm gonna fix it, and let it know here.
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#175345 - 2007-04-11 11:41 PM Re: Kixtart and Windows Vista [Re: Mart]
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A few indeed, that is the problem at the moment \:\(

I am happy I am in a large company where money is not a big issue normally. I got my Vista Business Upgrade on the launchday. At this moment I have more then 100 upgrades from XP Pro to Vista Business, got them from Dell for only 16 euros (Dell offered upgrades for machines bought between oktober 2006 and march 2007) so that is not a problem at my side.

Congratz with your 2K post ;\)

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#175346 - 2007-04-11 11:45 PM Re: Kixtart and Windows Vista [Re: Mart]
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 Originally Posted By: Mart


I found the first one too. But I have to re-organize some OU's before I can use it. I don't want to mess up my current enviroment too early \:\) Tomorrow I will build a new script on a new OU with this way of working. Hope that it will work. If it works I can test with a Windows XP client to be sure that runs too.

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#175355 - 2007-04-12 11:38 AM Re: Kixtart and Windows Vista [Re: Tha_Duck]
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Ok, short update. It looks like there is a incompatible command in Kix. I have build a new OU in my Active Directory with just 1 policy which starts 1 kix script with a mapping to a drive. That seems to work good!

I am gonna test all my other scripts now, maybe I can find out which command is not working correctly with Vista!

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#175356 - 2007-04-12 11:45 AM Re: Kixtart and Windows Vista [Re: Tha_Duck]
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Allrightie then.
Please post your progress here so we can all benefit and learn.
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#175359 - 2007-04-12 02:35 PM Re: Kixtart and Windows Vista [Re: Mart]
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Ok, this week i started deploying KIX in vista also.

A few things :

You added that user to the local admins? or added domain users to local admin?

Put your login script in the \\servername\netlogon and let the group policy logon script start from there.

Do you launch your logon script trough a cmd/batch file?

Disabling the UAC on the machine, fixed the problems i had with Vista before, for the moment i got it working with UAC turned on. (only when i trigger wkix32 directly from GPO without a batch file in between, because at that point the file runs as SYSTEM.)

SETTIME for example is one of the things you would need local admin rights for...

Also i noticed, that with the new kixforms dll(now using old version again), my form didn't really show up well, but that could be because of my crappy programming..

I hope this helps a bit, i'll be spending the next days to finalize my logon procedure..

So far for my first post ;\)

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#175361 - 2007-04-12 02:54 PM Re: Kixtart and Windows Vista [Re: Caveman]
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 Quote:

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SETTIME for example is one of the things you would need local admin rights for...
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SETTIME is meant for Win9x and NT. Win2K and up have a build in time service. One should not use SETTIME in an AD environment imho because it is outdated and requires admin privileges.
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#175362 - 2007-04-12 03:05 PM Re: Kixtart and Windows Vista [Re: Mart]
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Yes, but that whas exactly the point i whas trying to make, that some functions need local admin rights.
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#175363 - 2007-04-12 04:15 PM Re: Kixtart and Windows Vista [Re: Caveman]
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Thx Caveman, but I finally found the problem!!!

The problem is not rights, UAC, or whatever but the ADDPRINTERCONNECTION of Kix. If you try to add a printer where are no drivers for available on the Vista machine it will stop working. After the GPO timeout (600 seconds) the machine will boot further.

I don't know how to fix at this moment, I just turned of the addprinter \:\)

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#175364 - 2007-04-12 04:54 PM Re: Kixtart and Windows Vista [Re: Tha_Duck]
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IMHO, you only use AddPrinterConnection() for printers installed on a Printer Server. You should install and add drivers for all Operating Systems in your Domain.
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#175365 - 2007-04-12 05:14 PM Re: Kixtart and Windows Vista [Re: Witto]
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The addprinterconnection, where does it install the printer from?
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#175368 - 2007-04-12 05:39 PM Re: Kixtart and Windows Vista [Re: Caveman]
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 Originally Posted By: Caveman
The addprinterconnection, where does it install the printer from?


From the printer server would be my guess If no additional drives are added it will not install the printer on (in this case) Vista. So adding additional drivers to the specific printer on the printer server should solve the problem.
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#175369 - 2007-04-12 05:47 PM Re: Kixtart and Windows Vista [Re: Caveman]
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Network Printers are installed on a Printer Server. You should add drivers for all operating systems in your domain.
Using AddPrinterConnection(), you refer in the parameters to this printer server and the share names.
A common user does not have the right to install his own drivers for a printer. He uses the ones that you foresee in your domain.
AddPrinterConnection()
AddPrinterConnection (Function)
[Edit]
Hey, post 900 \:\)
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Edited by Witto (2007-04-12 05:50 PM)
Edit Reason: Whaaaw, Post 900!

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#175370 - 2007-04-12 05:52 PM Re: Kixtart and Windows Vista [Re: Witto]
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He Witto congrats on 0.9K \:D
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Edited by Mart (2007-04-12 05:53 PM)
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#175430 - 2007-04-17 12:50 AM Re: Kixtart and Windows Vista [Re: Mart]
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How do you disable UAC in Vista? I have a system that was working fine to mount the Windows volumes served up through SAMBA off an XServe and now it won't. Help! Also, what version of Kixtart is needed to be compatible with Vista? BTW, the new adds for OSX and Vista security are great! ;-)
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