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#174212 - 2007-02-24 12:53 AM Serious Problem!
adstudio Offline
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Ok, so I have no expience with networking or security... but, I could use some help. Please don't flame me for having no knowledge. I would normally just search and browse around, but I may not have enough time to get all the information I need.

I am a designer at a small company, I have been having a lot of problems with the network admin. (Personal issues) He has been spying on everyone, reading personal emails and whatever else he has been doing. Now he is trying to get me fired! He keeps playing games, blocking me out of parts of my computer that I have files which I need for work and just acting like a child.

The reason I am here, is I am going through the programs running in task manager and KiXtart was one of them. I'd just like to know exactly what he can do with this? Whats possible? and is there any way I can guard against anything he may be doing or planning on doing?

Any information or help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

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#174213 - 2007-02-24 01:00 AM Re: Serious Problem! [Re: adstudio]
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Many things can be accomplished with KiXtart. Without know what is in the script that KiXtart is processing it is impossible to say what is going on.

But this sounds more like an issue for management. If it is that obvious of his wrong doings, then you should be able to document it very well.
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#174219 - 2007-02-24 06:24 PM Re: Serious Problem! [Re: Gargoyle]
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well... he is the only networking person there, and he speaks over everyones head so that they have no idea what he is doing... Is it possible to get peoples passwords, credit card #'s and other information and read personal emails using this software? I'd like to know what kind of capabilites this has, is there a link on the site that maybe has a list of things this software can do?
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#174223 - 2007-02-24 06:44 PM Re: Serious Problem! [Re: adstudio]
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KiXtart can do a lot of things. I mean no disrespect, but trying to tell you what KiXtart can do is like asking where can I drive in my car? Just as there are some roads you wouldn't take your car on, there are things Kix can't do, but others its very good at. Maybe look at the UDF Forum for examples.

Don't you think its time you go to management with your issues, regardless of whether you are right or not?
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#174224 - 2007-02-24 06:58 PM Re: Serious Problem! [Re: Allen]
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This is definetly a most serious management issue. My recommendation is to talk to his manager at once.
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#174225 - 2007-02-24 07:08 PM Re: Serious Problem! [Re: masken]
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Just my opinion.
KiXtart is just a scripting language. You can download the v4.53 package here. In the package is a readme explaining all commands, functions, macro's etc.
You can compare KiXtart with VBS that is native available in Windows.
KiXtart was and is used in many cases during logon to run logon scripts.
Scripting langages are not created to steal credit card numbers and passwords.
Reading emails, well, in exchange, there are ways to backup and restore mailboxes and link a mailbox to a user account.
Much can be achieved by the level of admin rights a person has. One can always abuse these privileges. Scripting languages can also be abused.
I think, in your case, if you think your network administrator is abusing his privileges, you should inform asap your and his superiors. These things cannot be tolerated and have to be investigated.

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#174228 - 2007-02-24 09:02 PM Re: Serious Problem! [Re: Witto]
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Hey,adstudio


If you are sure that he is abusing his priviledges you should definitely report him to his bosses. Don't wait do it first thing in the morning.

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#174230 - 2007-02-24 09:11 PM Re: Serious Problem! [Re: adstudio]
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Hey, adstudio

I work in networking and security field for over twenty years. I could probably help you if you can tell me exactly what are you suspecting of him doing wrong.

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#174231 - 2007-02-24 09:19 PM Re: Serious Problem! [Re: penitent]
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thanks for getting back to me everyone, I have already made a formal complaint to his supervisor. Upper management are not technically savvy, s when they confronted him, he just words things in a way that they have no idea what he's talking about and he gets away with it. If anything is going to be done about this, I'm going to have to have proof of what he is doing...

Is there anyway I can find out exactly what he is doing? If I posted up a screen shot of what is running in the task manager would that help anyone get an idea of what is going on?

Witto: Thanks for the link, I'll check it out

ALLEN: Thanks, I will go through the UDF forum and check out what other scripts are available...

If anyone has any links that may help that have to do with monitoring other computers, and controlling them remotely (he has controlled my mouse remotely from a seperate computer, open programs ect...)

I wish they had another networking person to watch what he is doing, but they don't... So he likes to play GOD...

Thanks again everyone.


Edited by adstudio (2007-02-24 09:21 PM)

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#174233 - 2007-02-24 11:18 PM Re: Serious Problem! [Re: adstudio]
penitent Offline
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post up a screen shut. I'll take a look.
also, is there anything else you think goes on?

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#174234 - 2007-02-24 11:34 PM Re: Serious Problem! [Re: adstudio]
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Listen,
Does he have anything on you? I mean can he get to you in other ways?
I'm pretty much sure you did not do anything wrong, but is there something you could have done so he can blame you for?

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#174235 - 2007-02-25 12:20 AM Re: Serious Problem! [Re: penitent]
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He may have my credit card information and personal information... I can't be sure if he has any of that information yet. The only thing I do on the computer other than work, on lunch or when it gets slow I'll visit websites. I don't think thats a big problem.

I'm not home, but when I get a chance I'll post up a screen for ya if it helps.

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#174246 - 2007-02-25 08:31 AM Re: Serious Problem! [Re: adstudio]
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If your managers do not understand what they are being told, then they need to bring in an outside expert. The help that you can recieve here is going to be limited to the information that you provide.

If things are as bad as you make them out to be, you really need to have a serious one on one with your manager and make them understand exactly where you are coming from.

If the management is not willing to take your complaints seriously, you may just want to look for new job anyway's.

If any of what you are saying is true it is a disgrace to all of the network administrators that abide by the rules and do not abuse the inherent priveleges that one has due to a title.
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#174253 - 2007-02-25 06:45 PM Re: Serious Problem! [Re: Gargoyle]
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Amen Gargs.
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#174268 - 2007-02-26 04:29 PM Re: Serious Problem! [Re: Allen]
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I have already started looking for another job, they do not seem to care whether or not the network admin here is abusing his job...

On another note, I am now unable to post up any screen shots, I had several screens saved to different sections in my directory, as well as 3 other co-workers directories just in case he decided to go through mine. Turns out he went through theirs too, and deleted any screen shots i had saved, over the weekend he replaced the computer i was working on with another one, and also locked me out of even more areas of the computer. Now i'm not even able to get to task manager, I'm not even able to get to the display properties to change my resolution (which is rediculously low right now!)

I'll be talking with the bosses 1 more time about this problem and hopefully they will hire someone to come in and check on what he has been up to.

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#174269 - 2007-02-26 04:34 PM Re: Serious Problem! [Re: adstudio]
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oh i forgot, he also has a keylogger running and mysql program running on here as well... noticed that before he locked me out completely. reason i know he is using a keylogger, i decided one day to type him a little messege descrbing how much i like him HAHA!!! but i didn't use any email, or notepad even, just typed it up and 10 minutes later he approached me with a stupid attitude and procede to call me a piece of sh$%& haha!!!

But thanks for listening to me, I just need to vent a lil so i don't end up beating the crap out of him

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#174272 - 2007-02-26 07:34 PM Re: Serious Problem! [Re: adstudio]
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Maybe he is a member here and is following this thread. You said before you found kixtart in the task manager and now you can no longer access the task manager. Coincidence??
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#174274 - 2007-02-26 07:58 PM Re: Serious Problem! [Re: Mart]
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If the OP browsed here from the monitored PC, the BOFH could very well have followed him over here.
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#174319 - 2007-02-27 07:34 PM Re: Serious Problem! [Re: Les]
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Ugh, that's ugly. I used to work with someone like that. Thank God my prayers have been answered. I now work in a very healthy environment. Again, I thank God for that. Some people are just over-the-top sociopathic.
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#174320 - 2007-02-27 07:36 PM Re: Serious Problem! [Re: adstudio]
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 Originally Posted By: adstudio
I have already started looking for another job, they do not seem to care whether or not the network admin here is abusing his job...

On another note, I am now unable to post up any screen shots, I had several screens saved to different sections in my directory, as well as 3 other co-workers directories just in case he decided to go through mine. Turns out he went through theirs too, and deleted any screen shots i had saved, over the weekend he replaced the computer i was working on with another one, and also locked me out of even more areas of the computer. Now i'm not even able to get to task manager, I'm not even able to get to the display properties to change my resolution (which is rediculously low right now!)

I'll be talking with the bosses 1 more time about this problem and hopefully they will hire someone to come in and check on what he has been up to.


I love coming into a company like this after the "bad guy" has been booted out and cleaning up shop. Hopefully that will happen here.
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