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#167898 - 2006-09-18 01:53 AM Re: KiXgolf: Shuttle Puzzle - Public Round
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No need to ask. Shave one stroke and it is your's to post.
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#167899 - 2006-09-18 07:18 AM Re: KiXgolf: Shuttle Puzzle - Public Round
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Well, if you say so.
Code:

Function s($)
    Dim $_, $0, $1
    ReDim $s[($+1)*$+$]
    $s[0] = " "
    For $_ = 1 to $
        $s[0] = W + $s[0] + B
    Next
    For $_ = 1 to Ubound($s)
        $ = Split($s[$_-1]," ")
        $0 = Right($[0],1)
        $1 = Left($[1],1)
        Select
            Case InStr($[1],B)=2 AND $1 = W                                                 ;^B
                $s[$_] = $[0] + B + $1 + " " + Right($[1],-2)
            Case ($0 = B AND $1 = B AND InStr($[0],W)) OR ($0 = B AND InStr($[1],B) = 0)    ;W^
                $s[$_] = Left($[0],-2) + " " + $0 + W + $[1]
            Case $0 = W AND ( InStr($[0],B)=0 OR InStr($[1],B)=0)                           ;W->
                $s[$_] = Left($[0],~) + " W" + $[1]
            Case 1                                                                          ;<-B
                $s[$_] = $[0] + "B " + Right($[1],~)
        ;EndSelect
    ;Next
EndFunction

Code:

Shuttle Puzzle passed all 10 tests (100% correct)

KiXtart
KiXtart Version  = 4.53
KiXforms Version = 
KiXGolf Script   = kixgolf_shuttle.kix

Computer
OS               = Windows XP Professional
CPU              =               Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
Speed            = 2992 MHz
Memory           = 512 MB

KiXGolf Scoring Engine
Scoring Engine   = 3.2

KiXtart Golf Score
Tournament       = KiXtart Golf: Shuttle Puzzle
Processing Start = 2006/09/18 07:13:36.218
Processing End   = 2006/09/18 07:13:36.296
Duration         = 0000/00/00 00:00:00.077
KiXGolf Score    = 430
 
Thank you for participating in KiXtart Golf!

It is just that these things were so easy.
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#167900 - 2006-09-18 07:55 AM Re: KiXgolf: Shuttle Puzzle - Public Round
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Quote:

Current standings for the public round:
Code:

Rank Player          Score
 1   Jooel           238
 2   DrillSergeant   240
     Jooel           244
     Jooel           245
 3   Maciep          249
     Jooel           272
 4   RemcovC         275
     RemcovC         279
     Jooel           309
     DrillSergeant   360
 5   benny69         368
     benny69         412
 6   Jochen          472
 7   Witto           790




So that means I can compete with my 'non-private' code (had it ready before end of private round, but missed the deadline for about one hour) ?
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#167901 - 2006-09-18 08:13 AM Re: KiXgolf: Shuttle Puzzle - Public Round
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I don't recall any rules about those not playing in the private round not being able to play in the public round.

Granted it would be impossible to win overall, but as I see it anyone can play in public round.

Also, if someone trims points off of code you or anyone else posts then they then get a lower score than the poster until such time as the poster or someone else posts lower code.

There is no PROPRIETARY RIGHTS to the code just as there was not in the PERLGolf challenges.

I'm not going to go back and read all the rules now, but I don't remember any rules like that, but if there are then I think they should be removed to be in the real spirit of the Perl Challenge this is modeled after.
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#167902 - 2006-09-18 08:44 AM Re: KiXgolf: Shuttle Puzzle - Public Round
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Right, if you say so, here's 414 of mine

Code:

function s($)
    dim $_, $0, $1, $2
    redim $s[$*($+2)]
    $s[0] = " "
    for $_ = 1 to $
        $s[0] = W+$s[0]+B
    next
    for $_ = 1 to ubound($s)
        $ = split($s[$_-1]," ")
        $0 = right($[0],1)
        $1 = left($[1],1)
        $2 = instr($[1],B)
        select
            case $2=2 and $1=W                                        ;^B
                $s[$_] = $[0]+B+$1+" "+right($[1],-2)
            case ($0=B and $1=B and instr($[0],W)) or ($0=B and $2=0) ;W^
                $s[$_] = left($[0],-2)+" "+$0+W+$[1]
            case $0=W and (instr($[0],B)=0 or $2=0)                   ;W->
                $s[$_] = left($[0],~)+" W"+$[1]
            case 1                                                    ;<-B
                $s[$_] = $[0]+"B "+right($[1],~)
        ;endselect
    ;next
endfunction


Code:

Shuttle Puzzle passed all 10 tests (100% correct)

KiXtart
KiXtart Version  = 4.53
KiXforms Version = 
KiXGolf Script   = KIXGOL~1.KIX

Computer
OS               = Windows 2000 Professional
CPU              =               Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz
Speed            = 2793 MHz
Memory           = 504 MB

KiXGolf Scoring Engine
Scoring Engine   = 3.2

KiXtart Golf Score
Tournament       = KiXtart Golf: Shuttle Puzzle
Processing Start = 2006/09/18 08:40:50.296
Processing End   = 2006/09/18 08:40:50.609
Duration         = 0000/00/00 00:00:00.313
KiXGolf Score    = 414
 
Thank you for participating in KiXtart Golf!
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#167903 - 2006-09-18 09:07 AM Re: KiXgolf: Shuttle Puzzle - Public Round
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Quote:

do something?
adding extra stroke to the leading code would come up with 211.
how fair is that?



I know i'm new here, but I just want to give my opinion on this issue anyway

I totally agree with Jooel.
It's easy to take the lead score and modify it so you get 1 stroke more.
I can't count the times, in which I changed the lead script and got a 210 or a 211 as score.

I hadn't expected that my score of 213 counted, I dont think it's fair to do so. Jooel beat me with 210 half an hour earlier with the same (and even shorter) solution.
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#167904 - 2006-09-18 09:44 AM Re: KiXgolf: Shuttle Puzzle - Public Round
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410

should RTFM from time to time

Code:

function s($)
    dim $_, $0, $1, $2
    redim $s[$*($+2)]
    $s[0] = " "
    for $_ = 1 to $
        $s[0] = W+$s[0]+B
    next
    for $_ = 1 to ubound($s)
        $ = split($s[$_-1])
        $0 = right($[0],1)
        $1 = left($[1],1)
        $2 = instr($[1],B)
        select
            case $2=2 and $1=W                                        ;^B
                $s[$_] = $[0]+B+$1+" "+right($[1],-2)
            case ($0=B and $1=B and instr($[0],W)) or ($0=B and $2=0) ;W^
                $s[$_] = left($[0],-2)+" "+$0+W+$[1]
            case $0=W and (instr($[0],B)=0 or $2=0)                   ;W->
                $s[$_] = left($[0],~)+" W"+$[1]
            case 1                                                    ;<-B
                $s[$_] = $[0]+"B "+right($[1],~)
        ;endselect
    ;next
endfunction
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#167905 - 2006-09-18 09:49 AM Re: KiXgolf: Shuttle Puzzle - Public Round
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Well I don't agree and neither did the PERL community.

Bottom line is - IF someone somehow was able to write/re-write his/her or YOUR code and make it smaller, then they were able to think up something you were not able to think up (at least at the time).

That is sort of the whole idea of public coding, not to just see if you can lower your own code, but to get the lowest regardless of who's code used.
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#167906 - 2006-09-18 10:11 AM Re: KiXgolf: Shuttle Puzzle - Public Round
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I am fully with you there Ron;
The only problem for me is that I have a hard time to even understand what I myself coded
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#167907 - 2006-09-18 11:30 AM Re: KiXgolf: Shuttle Puzzle - Public Round
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remco, your score actually was the reason why I started thinking about it.
I know you were coding with the same base code as I and you didn't just copycat my modifications, thus, I think you should have that score.
anyways...
if someone takes the leading code and takes another approach with it and that adds to the score, he still has almost leading score with his code.
it shouldn't be accepted though.
so, think this comes to trust in the end. if allowing higher scores, one has to be able to trust that no misbehavior occurs.

someone might remember way back when some nameless regular posted very low score with:
Code:

function blaah($input)
$blaah = readprofilestring("kixgolf.ini",$input,"correct answer")
endfunction
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#167908 - 2006-09-18 12:10 PM Re: KiXgolf: Shuttle Puzzle - Public Round
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Shaved 3 of you're code
Code:
function s($)
    dim $_, $0, $1, $2
    redim $s[$*($+2)]
    $s[0] = " "
    for $_ = 1 to $
        $s[0] = W+$s[0]+B
    next
    for $_ = 1 to $*($+2) ; = ubound($s)
        $ = Split($s[$_-1])
        $0 = right($[0],1)
        $1 = left($[1],1)
        $2 = instr($[1],B)
        select
            case $2=2 and $1=W                                        ;^B
                $s[$_] = $[0]+B+$1+" "+right($[1],-2)
            case ($0=B and $1=B and instr($[0],W)) or ($0=B and $2=0) ;W^
                $s[$_] = left($[0],-2)+" "+$0+W+$[1]
            case $0=W and (instr($[0],B)=0 or $2=0)                   ;W->
                $s[$_] = left($[0],~)+" W"+$[1]
            case 1                                                    ;<-B
                $s[$_] = $[0]+"B "+right($[1],~)
        ;endselect
    ;next
endfunction
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#167909 - 2006-09-18 01:01 PM Re: KiXgolf: Shuttle Puzzle - Public Round
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yay, obviously

2 more makes 405 :

Code:
 function s($)
    dim $_, $0, $1, $2
    redim $s[$*($+2)]
    $s[0] = " "
    for $_ = 1 to $
        $s[0] = W+$s[0]+B
    next
    for $_ = 1 to $*($+2)
        $ = split($s[$_-1])
        $0 = right($[0],1)
        $1 = left($[1],1)
        $2 = instr($[1],B)
        select
            case $2 and $1=W                                          ;^B
                $s[$_] = $[0]+B+$1+" "+right($[1],-2)
            case ($0=B and $1=B and instr($[0],W)) or ($0=B and $2=0) ;W^
                $s[$_] = left($[0],-2)+" "+$0+W+$[1]
            case $0=W and (instr($[0],B)=0 or $2=0)                   ;W->
                $s[$_] = left($[0],~)+" W"+$[1]
            case 1                                                    ;<-B
                $s[$_] = $[0]+"B "+right($[1],~)
        ;endselect
    ;next
endfunction


Code:

Shuttle Puzzle passed all 10 tests (100% correct)

KiXtart
KiXtart Version  = 4.53
KiXforms Version = 
KiXGolf Script   = KIXGOL~1.KIX

Computer
OS               = Windows 2000 Professional
CPU              =               Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz
Speed            = 2793 MHz
Memory           = 504 MB

KiXGolf Scoring Engine
Scoring Engine   = 3.2

KiXtart Golf Score
Tournament       = KiXtart Golf: Shuttle Puzzle
Processing Start = 2006/09/18 13:07:51.812
Processing End   = 2006/09/18 13:07:52.265
Duration         = 0000/00/00 00:00:00.453
KiXGolf Score    = 405
 
Thank you for participating in KiXtart Golf!

Edited by Jochen (2006-09-18 01:10 PM)
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#167910 - 2006-09-18 01:26 PM Re: KiXgolf: Shuttle Puzzle - Public Round
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402

Code:
function s($)
    dim $_, $0, $1, $2
    redim $s[$*($+2)]
    $s[0] = " "
    for $_ = 1 to $
        $s[0] = W+$s[0]+B
    next
    for $_ = 1 to $*($+2)
        $ = split($s[$_-1])
        $0 = right($[0],1)
        $1 = left($[1],1)
        $2 = instr($[1],B)
        select
            case $2 and $1=W                                          ;^B
                $s[$_] = $[0]+B+$1+" "+right($[1],-2)
            case (BB=$0+$1 and instr($[0],W)) or ($0=B and $2=0) ;W^
                $s[$_] = left($[0],-2)+" "+$0+W+$[1]
            case $0=W and (instr($[0],B)=0 or $2=0)                   ;W->
                $s[$_] = left($[0],~)+" W"+$[1]
            case 1                                                    ;<-B
                $s[$_] = $[0]+"B "+right($[1],~)
        ;endselect
    ;next
endfunction



Code:

Shuttle Puzzle passed all 10 tests (100% correct)

KiXtart
KiXtart Version  = 4.53
KiXforms Version = 
KiXGolf Script   = KIXGOL~1.KIX

Computer
OS               = Windows 2000 Professional
CPU              =               Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz
Speed            = 2793 MHz
Memory           = 504 MB

KiXGolf Scoring Engine
Scoring Engine   = 3.2

KiXtart Golf Score
Tournament       = KiXtart Golf: Shuttle Puzzle
Processing Start = 2006/09/18 13:23:22.359
Processing End   = 2006/09/18 13:23:22.796
Duration         = 0000/00/00 00:00:00.437
KiXGolf Score    = 402
 
Thank you for participating in KiXtart Golf!
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#167911 - 2006-09-18 01:59 PM Re: KiXgolf: Shuttle Puzzle - Public Round
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thanks Jochen, 345
Code:

Function s($z)
	
	Dim $,$a,$b,$c,$d,$e
	ReDim $s[$z*($z+2)]
	
	$=' '
	For $a=1 to $z
		$=W+$+B
	Next
	For $a=0 to $z*($z+2)
		$s[$a]=$
		$=Split($)
		$b=$[0] ;Left
		$c=$[1] ;Right
		$d=Right($b,2) ;Right chrs of Left Half
		$e=Left($c,2)  ;Left chrs of Right Half
		Select
			Case $d=WB
				$=Left($b,Len($b)-2)+' BW'+$c
			Case $e=WB
				$=$b+'BW '+Right($c,Len($c)-2)
			Case Not($d=W Or $d=WW) And Left($e,1)=B
				$=$b+'B '+Right($c,Len($c)-1)
			Case 1
				$=Left($b,Len($b)-1)+' W'+$c
		;EndSelect
	;Next
	
EndFunction
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#167912 - 2006-09-18 02:16 PM Re: KiXgolf: Shuttle Puzzle - Public Round
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Hey, you're welcome
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#167913 - 2006-09-18 02:21 PM Re: KiXgolf: Shuttle Puzzle - Public Round
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341 for you benny

Code:
Function s($z)
	
	Dim $,$a,$b,$c,$d,$e
	
	$=' '
	For $a=1 to $z
		$=W+$+B
		$b=$b+$z+2
	Next
	ReDim $s[$b]
	For $a=0 to $b
		$s[$a]=$
		$=Split($)
		$b=$[0] ;Left
		$c=$[1] ;Right
		$d=Right($b,2) ;Right chrs of Left Half
		$e=Left($c,2)  ;Left chrs of Right Half
		Select
			Case $d=WB
				$=Left($b,Len($b)-2)+' BW'+$c
			Case $e=WB
				$=$b+'BW '+Right($c,Len($c)-2)
			Case Not($d=W Or $d=WW) And Left($e,1)=B
				$=$b+'B '+Right($c,Len($c)-1)
			Case 1
				$=Left($b,Len($b)-1)+' W'+$c
		;EndSelect
	;Next
	
EndFunction/Code:







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#167914 - 2006-09-18 02:23 PM Re: KiXgolf: Shuttle Puzzle - Public Round
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Jeez, you guys make me log in from work.

Rule 8) states that in the public round anybody can re-use anybody's code. This means that somebody who missed the private round submission deadline can still submit his code and have it count in the public round. This also means that anybody can take any of the codes posted in the public round and improve the code base to gain a better score. However, taking e.g. the best-scoring code, adding a stroke to then make second place will not count. You must improve the score in order to have it counted, plus only the best submission by any coder will count. Thus, nobody could take over multiple spots in the ranking.

Hope this clears it up.
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#167915 - 2006-09-18 02:44 PM Re: KiXgolf: Shuttle Puzzle - Public Round
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And kicking a var brings benny's code down to 338

Code:
Function s($z)
	
	Dim $,$a,$b,$c,$d
	
	$=' '
	For $a=1 to $z
		$=W+$+B
		$b=$b+$z+2
	Next
	ReDim $s[$b]
	For $a=0 to $b
		$s[$a]=$
		$=Split($)
		$b=$[0] ;Left
		$c=$[1] ;Right
		$d=Right($b,2) ;Right chrs of Left Half
		$z=Left($c,2)  ;Left chrs of Right Half
		Select
			Case $d=WB
				$=Left($b,Len($b)-2)+' BW'+$c
			Case $z=WB
				$=$b+'BW '+Right($c,Len($c)-2)
			Case Not($d=W Or $d=WW) And Left($z,1)=B
				$=$b+'B '+Right($c,Len($c)-1)
			Case 1
				$=Left($b,Len($b)-1)+' W'+$c
		;EndSelect
	;Next
	
EndFunction
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#167916 - 2006-09-18 02:45 PM Re: KiXgolf: Shuttle Puzzle - Public Round
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Well, you know Jens,

Anytime I fire kixgolf_nameofthegame.kix the results (Score) will be written to kixgolf_nameofthegame_rules.txt.
That makes it hard to study the rules
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#167917 - 2006-09-18 03:18 PM Re: KiXgolf: Shuttle Puzzle - Public Round
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go Rem Go!
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