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#160628 - 2006-04-11 12:00 AM .spk or other speaker music?
nakedavenger nakedavenger Fresh Scripter Registered: 2006-04-10 Posts: 20	jbond.spk just won't cut it. I'd like to PLAY FILE "mission impossible.spk" or the equivalent PLAY "some complex string" when the login script completes.... Anyone know where I can dig up the first little bit of the Mission Impossible Theme? Anyone want to prove they are a music nerd and build it for me? dun dun DUN DUN dun dun DUN DUN....
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#160629 - 2006-04-11 01:11 AM Re: .spk or other speaker music?
Les Les KiX Master Registered: 2001-06-11 Posts: 12734 Loc: fortfrances.on.ca	You BOFH... your users will hate you for it. _________________________ Give a man a fish and he will be back for more. Slap him with a fish and he will go away forever.
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#160630 - 2006-04-11 10:12 AM Re: .spk or other speaker music?
Jochen Jochen KiX Supporter Registered: 2000-03-17 Posts: 6380 Loc: Stuttgart, Germany	Your users will kill you after a week of login in ... or they will lock the computer instead of logging of _________________________
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#160631 - 2006-04-11 02:45 PM Re: .spk or other speaker music?
Les Les KiX Master Registered: 2001-06-11 Posts: 12734 Loc: fortfrances.on.ca	Logon scripts should neither be seen nor heard! _________________________ Give a man a fish and he will be back for more. Slap him with a fish and he will go away forever.
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#160632 - 2006-04-11 02:47 PM Re: .spk or other speaker music?
Jochen Jochen KiX Supporter Registered: 2000-03-17 Posts: 6380 Loc: Stuttgart, Germany	well, then on the other hand people ask for progress bars for their logon things ... well, not as annoying as spk sounds _________________________
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#160633 - 2006-04-11 04:22 PM Re: .spk or other speaker music?
nakedavenger nakedavenger Fresh Scripter Registered: 2006-04-10 Posts: 20	The login script that I inherited is the bane of the company - it takes forever to run, has NO error checking, and the users constantly complain that 'this little black box is sitting there' but they don't know why or what it does. The new script forces itself on top, tells them in plain language what it's doing and uses colored text to alert them to errors. It waits for a keystroke at the end and tells them a level of success. This way they get visual confirmation that things are OK or not, and the helpdesk can actually ask them WHERE their script choked if necessary. The music will be a little 2-second blip at the end to accompany the colored text summary - Mission Impossible for success, something depressing for a fail - dun dun DUN!
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#160634 - 2006-04-11 04:25 PM Re: .spk or other speaker music?
Jochen Jochen KiX Supporter Registered: 2000-03-17 Posts: 6380 Loc: Stuttgart, Germany	Make sure the script runs and finishes without waiting for keystrokes .. let it write a log file locally or centrally at each login so that one can check for cause in case of failure. Just my opinion on how a logon script should work. _________________________
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#160635 - 2006-04-11 04:49 PM Re: .spk or other speaker music?
nakedavenger nakedavenger Fresh Scripter Registered: 2006-04-10 Posts: 20	I know its unconventional to inform and empower users, but we're just crazy like that around here. It's like putting nutrition labels on food packages - people like to see it even if they don't really know what it means because the alternative is Big Brother just patting them on the head and saying "Just eat it - it's good for you" Morale and productivity tank, profits go down, turnover is rampant, and all because they didn't get to see a little glimmer of IT humanity in the morning. Oh yeah... did I mention I'm looking for muzak files?
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#160636 - 2006-04-11 04:59 PM Re: .spk or other speaker music?
Les Les KiX Master Registered: 2001-06-11 Posts: 12734 Loc: fortfrances.on.ca	Sorry. I did not realize I was contributing to the decline of the human race by running mt logon script hidden. _________________________ Give a man a fish and he will be back for more. Slap him with a fish and he will go away forever.
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#160637 - 2006-04-11 05:02 PM Re: .spk or other speaker music?
nakedavenger nakedavenger Fresh Scripter Registered: 2006-04-10 Posts: 20	Well you DO have a quote by Stalin in you signature... not exactly the poster boy for human rights or dignity
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#160638 - 2006-04-11 05:13 PM Re: .spk or other speaker music?
Shawn Shawn Administrator Registered: 1999-08-13 Posts: 8611	I would go for "the progress bar" over "muzak" ... we use "the progress bar" and it give our user's a warm and fuzzy. Use the "the progress bar" - got to get "the progress bar" ;0) Besides - (seriously) - the progress bar is more "business-like/professional" in my opinion. Not sure that muzak is appropriate for the office - idk - its your office ;0)
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#160639 - 2006-04-11 08:56 PM Re: .spk or other speaker music?
Mart Mart KiX Supporter Registered: 2002-03-27 Posts: 4673 Loc: The Netherlands	Shawn, Quote: I would go for "the progress bar" over "muzak" ... we use "the progress bar" and it give our user's a warm and fuzzy. Use the "the progress bar" - got to get "the progress bar" ;0) This is clearly a shameless promotion of kixforms. We know you build it, we know you like it (and so do lots of us including me) and now we know you want to brainwash everybody and put sweet and nice kixforms thoughts in our heads WTF Get out of my head, get out, get out!! Just rattling your chain Shawn. Kixforms and its progress bar is the way to go in stead of a key stroke by the users and some music at success and/or failure. These .spk files are fun to play with but do not belong in a production environment imho. Unless you play some kind of really cool music using your 5.1 surround speaker set so everybody in the office/street knows your logon was successful meaning you still know how to write your username and you remembered your password. Edited by Mart (2006-04-11 08:57 PM) _________________________ Mart - Chuck Norris once sold ebay to ebay on ebay.
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#160640 - 2006-04-11 09:09 PM Re: .spk or other speaker music?
Jochen Jochen KiX Supporter Registered: 2000-03-17 Posts: 6380 Loc: Stuttgart, Germany	Well, as you can PLAY also *.wav files You could record your Voice saying "Whoa, you remembered your username and password ... over the weekend" Way ahead of a so called "progress bar"-ed login experience hint: sndrc32.exe _________________________
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#160641 - 2006-04-11 10:37 PM Re: .spk or other speaker music?
Shawn Shawn Administrator Registered: 1999-08-13 Posts: 8611	lol, I didn't say anything about Kixforms ... actually (truthfully) I was thinking more about the simple PBAR() function in the UDF library. Thats what we use for production (honest - no Kixforms) - in fact, I wrote PBAR specifically for our prod login scripts.
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#160642 - 2006-04-12 03:43 AM Re: .spk or other speaker music?
NTDOC NTDOC Administrator Registered: 2000-07-28 Posts: 11634 Loc: Space	Okay - now that everyone has slammed you and you still want to persist As for the .SPK I'm not sure as they are limited and were never all that popular even years ago when they were around. The best I can offer in that area is to do some Google searching for them to see if someone has something. Though not a .SPK file you can still play music,video,sound via this UDF. PlayMediaFile() - Plays a media file, either audio or video using mplay32.exe http://www.kixtart.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=128878 I've used it around the Holidays and it worked just fine for all of our systems.
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#160643 - 2006-04-12 05:28 AM Re: .spk or other speaker music?
NTDOC NTDOC Administrator Registered: 2000-07-28 Posts: 11634 Loc: Space	Don't forget that KiX can also play .wav files with the PLAY feature. As for finding more .spk files that might prove to be a bit more difficult. A quick search on Google didn't come up with too much. Perhaps a more refined or deeper search will come up with something. This won't play with KiXtart that I know of but since it applies to the built-in speaker I figured I'd go ahead and post it. (The midi one plays from sound card, not speaker) Wizard Master Control Program (for midi) http://www.wizardmaster.com/bludgeonsoft/wmcp/index.html 0303 (for speaker) http://www.wizardmaster.com/bludgeonsoft/0303/index.html But using the UDF should work just fine especially for a quick clip. You can show the player or hide it at your descretion.
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#160644 - 2006-04-12 09:22 AM Re: .spk or other speaker music?
Jochen Jochen KiX Supporter Registered: 2000-03-17 Posts: 6380 Loc: Stuttgart, Germany	Quote: Don't forget that KiX can also play .wav files with the PLAY feature. Yep, I mentioned that already _________________________
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#160645 - 2006-04-12 09:43 AM Re: .spk or other speaker music?
NTDOC NTDOC Administrator Registered: 2000-07-28 Posts: 11634 Loc: Space	Yep, so you did, but sometimes (at least I do) people overlook some of the words in some posts LOL - Now he has a double - shot of advice. If you do choose to use a .wav or similar - then you may want to check if the system has a sound card enabled or not or if not that important just ignore it and let it rip.
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#160646 - 2006-04-14 05:32 AM Re: .spk or other speaker music?
Sealeopard Sealeopard KiX Master Registered: 2001-04-25 Posts: 11165 Loc: Boston, MA, USA	Shanw: We commonly refer to progress bars as 'anxiety bars' :-) Anxiety tops at around 90% progress before jubilations begin upon hitting 100% :-) _________________________ There are two types of vessels, submarines and targets.
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