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#159580 - 2006-03-22 02:04 PM Map Drive in Win 98
krex krex Fresh Scripter Registered: 2006-03-02 Posts: 39	Hi! I have a win98 WS that dosent log on to a domain. I want to map a drive on one of my server. like this: Code: Use y: "\\myserver\myshare" /user:mydomain\myusername /password:secret Now the WS is just in a workgroup so if i logon as administrator the script works but if a log on as fred it dosent work. Why....? And how do i fix it
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#159581 - 2006-03-22 02:12 PM Re: Map Drive in Win 98
krex krex Fresh Scripter Registered: 2006-03-02 Posts: 39	If i use @error i get a 1208 ???
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#159582 - 2006-03-22 02:14 PM Re: Map Drive in Win 98
Björn Björn Korg Regular Registered: 2005-12-07 Posts: 953 Loc: Stockholm, Sweden.	error 1208 - An extended error has occurred. do you have the dll's on the machine? Try mapping it manually with the same user - do you get an error then aswell? Edited by ewook (2006-03-22 02:22 PM) _________________________ as long as it works - why fix it? If it doesn't work - kix-it!
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#159583 - 2006-03-22 02:35 PM Re: Map Drive in Win 98
krex krex Fresh Scripter Registered: 2006-03-02 Posts: 39	i have now moved all the kix files kx95.dll, kx16.dll kx32.dll kix32.exe to the same folder and i put my script here. i now get and error 1245...? I have never had any problems with use. but this is also the first time i try kix on win98
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#159584 - 2006-03-22 02:36 PM Re: Map Drive in Win 98
Björn Björn Korg Regular Registered: 2005-12-07 Posts: 953 Loc: Stockholm, Sweden.	net error 1245 - The operation being requested was not performed because the user has not logged on to the network. The specified service does not exist. Moved all your dll's were? check the manual for the correct location. _________________________ as long as it works - why fix it? If it doesn't work - kix-it!
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#159585 - 2006-03-22 02:43 PM Re: Map Drive in Win 98
krex krex Fresh Scripter Registered: 2006-03-02 Posts: 39	I moved them all to folder c:\kix And i dont understand what i means havent log on to the network. this WS is not a menber of a domain
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#159586 - 2006-03-22 02:46 PM Re: Map Drive in Win 98
Björn Björn Korg Regular Registered: 2005-12-07 Posts: 953 Loc: Stockholm, Sweden.	first off - the dll's is to be placed in %windir%\system. were you able to map the drive correctly manually? note from earlier - this can all be read were to place 'em in the manual. Edited by ewook (2006-03-22 02:49 PM) _________________________ as long as it works - why fix it? If it doesn't work - kix-it!
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#159587 - 2006-03-22 02:46 PM Re: Map Drive in Win 98
Richard H. Richard H. Administrator Registered: 2000-01-24 Posts: 4946 Loc: Leatherhead, Surrey, UK	But you are trying to use a domain login to map the share. I'm not sure that the Win98 redirector will allow that if you are not already logged in to a trusted domain locally.
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#159588 - 2006-03-22 02:50 PM Re: Map Drive in Win 98
Björn Björn Korg Regular Registered: 2005-12-07 Posts: 953 Loc: Stockholm, Sweden.	Then he shouldn't be able to map it manually either, right? _________________________ as long as it works - why fix it? If it doesn't work - kix-it!
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#159589 - 2006-03-22 02:54 PM Re: Map Drive in Win 98
krex krex Fresh Scripter Registered: 2006-03-02 Posts: 39	Ok i wrote the WS is not member of a domain but a workgroup named workgroup. Now when i boot up my win98 i comes with a logon box not for the domain but just for the workstation if i log on as administrator my script works if i log of and log on as fred it says you have never log been log on to this computer.....bla bla bla now the script dosent work.....?
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#159590 - 2006-03-22 02:55 PM Re: Map Drive in Win 98
krex krex Fresh Scripter Registered: 2006-03-02 Posts: 39	by the way my dll are still in %windir%\system
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#159591 - 2006-03-22 03:59 PM Re: Map Drive in Win 98
Björn Björn Korg Regular Registered: 2005-12-07 Posts: 953 Loc: Stockholm, Sweden.	Quote: I moved them all to folder c:\kix Ah, then you didn't move 'em, but copied 'em. _________________________ as long as it works - why fix it? If it doesn't work - kix-it!
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#159592 - 2006-03-23 01:36 AM Re: Map Drive in Win 98
Jack Lothian Jack Lothian MM club member Registered: 1999-10-22 Posts: 1169 Loc: Ottawa,Ontario, Canada	I think Richard's suggestion is the best. Set Logon to the domain in the network properties. That way the domain will handle the logon & the server will handle all the permissions. It is a long time since I used Win9x but I think that if you don't then the local machine handles everything. Then you have to be in the same local workgroup or domain as the machine you wish to access when you boot up. The logon ID that Win9x picks up locally will be then be the logon ID it feeds to the machine you are trying to attach. If it is a machine inside a domain, that machine will insist on you supplying a domain authorized logon ID plus password. If your Win9x is suddenly asking for a logon ID you changed something in the network properties. Also, without a domain server logon, I do not think you can autorun a logon script. You need to logon into the domain & auto pick up the script from the netlogon share. If remember, I think you can auto run a script on the local machine but you might need to run it from the autorun key in the registry. This is real old stuff - trying to find advice on the non-standard use of Win9x in a domain will be a challenge. Edited by Jack Lothian (2006-03-23 01:45 AM) _________________________ Jack
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#159593 - 2006-03-23 08:34 AM Re: Map Drive in Win 98
NTDOC NTDOC Administrator Registered: 2000-07-28 Posts: 11628 Loc: CA	Richard was close (or on target if reading correctly) The Windows 9x network redirector DOES NOT support you supplying alternate credentials. NOT SUPPORTED Use y: "\\myserver\myshare" /user:mydomain\myusername /password:secret If the Workstation is in the same DOMAIN and the UserCredentials match those on the Domain Account it should map. On a Workgroup it's a bit different, but I'm assuming you're trying to connect to an NT Domain share point.
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#159594 - 2006-03-23 08:58 AM Re: Map Drive in Win 98
Björn Björn Korg Regular Registered: 2005-12-07 Posts: 953 Loc: Stockholm, Sweden.	That makes sense. Then it wouldn't work manually either. _________________________ as long as it works - why fix it? If it doesn't work - kix-it!
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#159595 - 2006-03-23 03:22 PM Re: Map Drive in Win 98
kasul kasul Fresh Scripter Registered: 2001-12-03 Posts: 41 Loc: Hannover / Germany	But why it works for the local admin? (okok, could be the same credentials as in the domain) other suggestion: are there any other Mappings to the same Server "Fred" does before? Windows Servers won't let you map two Shares with different Credentials from the same Client via \\servername\share. if so, try \\serverip\share. _________________________ german native-> poor english sysadmin-> poor german...
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#159596 - 2006-03-23 04:06 PM Re: Map Drive in Win 98
krex krex Fresh Scripter Registered: 2006-03-02 Posts: 39	Ok! So there is no way to map a share on a server if the windows 98 client is member of that domain.... Or is there a work around a exe file or somethinge that you could download that will support credentials....? in windows 98
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#159597 - 2006-03-23 04:22 PM Re: Map Drive in Win 98
Les Les KiX Master Registered: 2001-06-11 Posts: 12734 Loc: fortfrances.on.ca	Quote: But why it works for the local admin? Say it aint so! Same admin password for local admin as domain? Now there is a security violation worth getting fired over! _________________________ Give a man a fish and he will be back for more. Slap him with a fish and he will go away forever.
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#159598 - 2006-03-25 05:39 PM Re: Map Drive in Win 98
Jack Lothian Jack Lothian MM club member Registered: 1999-10-22 Posts: 1169 Loc: Ottawa,Ontario, Canada	Quote: Ok! So there is no way to map a share on a server if the windows 98 client is member of that domain.... I thought I was saying the opposite & I think DOC & Richard are also. Change the network properties to 'logon to an NT domain' then delete the local windows 98 password file. Then reboot using a vaild domain ID & password. Once you input a password locally it never goes away & this is password that Win98 feeds the domain (together with the local logon ID). Then set the domain share using group or user ID level controls - no passwords on the share. Mapping should then work but note that deep share mappings will not work & thus the autogenerated User shares will not connect. You must manually (on the server) define a new share that connects to the user share & manually (on the local machine or in the auto logon script) map to this share. You can automap map to shares with group or user level controls if the share is \\server\share but you can not map \\server\share\userid so you must create a share called \\server\userid. Four or five years ago there was a lot of discussion of this issue on the board. It is still in the archives - try searching for topics like 'win98 share', etc. If the result is from years 2000-2002, it might be helpful. _________________________ Jack
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#159599 - 2006-03-26 06:41 AM Re: Map Drive in Win 98
NTDOC NTDOC Administrator Registered: 2000-07-28 Posts: 11628 Loc: CA	Yep, think Jack is saying the right thing. As an FYI a Windows 9x system can not join a Domain there is no such functionality. It can belong to a WORKGROUP with the SAME name as the Domain and process the logon script of the NT Domain, but it is not "joined in the sense that an NT system is". Windows 9x was built for home users but gained such popularity back then that it quickly gained a foot hold in the Corporate World. Users liked the look and feel of it much more than NT 3.51 and NT 4.0 for the desktop.
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