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#140597 - 2005-05-30 10:38 PM Quick Launch Challenge
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For a while I've been looking for a way to enable (and possibly disable) the Quick Launch bar programmatically. Any (script) language would work for me but KiX would be nicest of course. I've Googled until I got RSI but I can't seem to find a way. Even filemon and regmon got me nowhere Am I totally overlooking something or is this a special challenge for the guru's here... anyway, I've got my hope all set on you guys (and girls?).

Btw.. the key is programmatically, of course I know you can do it with a right mouse click. If a logoff/logon or even a reboot is required for the change to work that would be NO problem for what I'm looking for.

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#140598 - 2005-05-30 11:03 PM Re: Quick Launch Challenge
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With some Googling I found a way to disable it at least hehe.. by activating the Classic shell...
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer
"ClassicShell" 1 or 0

Also via GPO:
"User Configuration\Administrative
Templates\Windows Components\Windows Explorer\Enable Classic Shell"

EDIT
Even more using Google groups:

http://groups.google.se/groups?hl=sv&lr=...gp07%26rnum%3D1
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#140599 - 2005-05-30 11:06 PM Re: Quick Launch Challenge
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LOL... effective but not what I'm looking for. I actually want to turn it on (and possibly off).
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#140600 - 2005-05-30 11:08 PM Re: Quick Launch Challenge
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lol, I googled a "rename hack" here:

%userprofile%\Application Data\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Renamed Quick Launch

We got rid of this through GPO's iirc, it was the byproduct of locking-down something else though, will advise if I find it.

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#140601 - 2005-05-30 11:08 PM Re: Quick Launch Challenge
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Well then take your time and actually look at the links I provied and you'll find what you're looking for
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#140602 - 2005-05-30 11:33 PM Re: Quick Launch Challenge
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Well....found this in the google groups link. It will turn of every toolbar on the taskbar.
It works. Tested it on a co workers pc and he almost killed me LOL
Never do testing on your own pc to keep away from fubaring it accidentally.

Code:

WriteValue ("HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer", "NoToolbarsOnTaskbar", "1", "REG_DWORD")



Will search some more on how to turn just QL on and/or off. Would also like to know how to do this by script.


Edited by R2D2 (2005-05-30 11:35 PM)
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#140603 - 2005-05-30 11:40 PM Re: Quick Launch Challenge
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I apperently replied before the links were there but I've just read thru a load of 'solutions' but either they don't work or have to be applied to the .default user or to hkey_users while the user is not logged on. The former won't do because it wouldn't work for existing profiles, and for the latter I can't see an 'easy' way to implement that. I was hoping for a script that could be run in the user context. The search continues...
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#140604 - 2005-05-30 11:42 PM Re: Quick Launch Challenge
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Disabling seems easier than enabling... apperently 'just' deleting the quick launch folder will disable it too... and I agree, never test anything potentially destructful on your own machine and along those same lines... no better test environment than your production environment
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#140605 - 2005-05-31 12:01 AM Re: Quick Launch Challenge
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How about this option?

Quote:


Hello,

Thank you for your posting.

To enable Quicklaunch bar automatically, please refer to below steps:

1) Logon as a user and setup the Taskbar settings like you want it(Quick
Launch, Unlock Taskbar etc) then log off as that user so that changes get
made to
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Stream
s\Desktop] "TaskbarWinXP"

2) Logon as same user as in step 1 above and then bring up regedit and
export the above hive out. And Logoff.

3) Logon as Administrator and then in a text editor bring up the reg key
that was saved out in step 2 above and make the following changes to it

Original HKCU key exported out in step 2:
=========================================
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Stream
s\Desktop]
"TaskbarWinXP"=hex: Snip, All binary data remains unchanged

Regkey after changes:
=====================
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Strea
ms\Desktop]
"Toolbars"=hex:11,00,00,00,00,00,00,00
"Default Taskbar (Personal)"=hex: Snip, All binary data remains unchanged

4) Then apply the new HKLM regkey and each new user that logs onto the
system will get the settings to the taskbar that have been specified.

In addition, there is also a tool can enable Quicklunch bar, you can just
put it into login script. You can send a email to me at
xxxx@microsoft.com and I will send it to you.

Have a nice day!

Regards,
Bob Qin
Microsoft Online Partner Support






http://groups.google.se/groups?q=script+....phx.gbl&rnum=8

Takes some preparations but should be easy enough to do
Did not try it yet myself but will give it a go if time allows tomorrow.

[edit]
Added the text from google groups post.
He's talking about a QuickLunch bar LOL
Just mailed the guy to get a copy of the tool.
[/edit]


Edited by R2D2 (2005-05-31 12:11 AM)

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#140606 - 2005-05-31 12:14 AM Re: Quick Launch Challenge
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A side effect of some other setting, hmmmmm.....
Maybe MS implementing it into GPO would be nice.


Edited by R2D2 (2005-05-31 12:15 AM)
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#140607 - 2005-05-31 12:46 AM Re: Quick Launch Challenge
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No time to try that now, maybe tomorrow. But what the heck... I just looked at your profile... I worked there too (Achterklooster!) from 1994 to 2000. First as tech support and last 4 years or so as system administrator. Guess it's a small world afterall

Edit: I've emailed the guy from the newsgroup too...


Edited by iffy (2005-05-31 12:51 AM)

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#140608 - 2005-05-31 02:48 AM Re: Quick Launch Challenge
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Hopefully I never have to work where you guys are Admins.

I can't believe you guys take the time to CONTROL whether or not a user can have the QuickLaunch bar on his/her desktop. Perhaps in a KIOSK type of environment where a user is only allowed to run certain applications, or similar, but in a normal workplace - what does it really matter if a user has one or not?

I thought IT was supposed to be an ENABLER of Technology and Support to achieve more growth for the Company, not just exercise their POWER over others.

 

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#140609 - 2005-05-31 03:16 AM Re: Quick Launch Challenge
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Quote:

I thought IT was supposed to be an ENABLER of Technology and Support to achieve more growth for the Company, not just exercise their POWER over others.





LOL. Doc didn't you recently participate in this thread? Twinkle Twinkle Little Star Hmmm... what's the difference?

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#140610 - 2005-05-31 03:34 AM Re: Quick Launch Challenge
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Aaron was wanting to play a joke on a fellow IT Admin I thought. Iffy doesn't say why, so one would assume that he is looking for a method to control all the Desktops which is a LOT different then playing a joke on someone.

 

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#140611 - 2005-05-31 08:20 AM Re: Quick Launch Challenge
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Yes you are right, it's about enabling technology but that is besides the issue. First of all you do not know my users and secondly, the systems are (historically ) locked down so the start menu and taskbar for example cannot be modified. No need to either (locally) since all our apps are in a Citrix farm and nothing runs locally except a virus scanner. By default the Quick Launch bar is disabled on WinXP, I want to GIVE the users the Quick Launch bar as I can see it's value in some cases. So guess I'm the hero afterall and we can start working together
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#140612 - 2005-05-31 09:54 AM Re: Quick Launch Challenge
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Not meaning anything personal - just seemed like a rather draconian approach to IT Support without all the details.


Well have not researched this specific issue, but here are some links to other similar issues I was able to come up with when no one else had come up with a solution.

taskmgr - automating "hide when minimized"
http://www.kixtart.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB14&Number=116018

ModifyStartMenu()
http://www.kixtart.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=82899


 

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#140613 - 2005-06-04 11:46 AM Re: Quick Launch Challenge
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Totally off topic (sorry about that ) but if you worked there until 2000 then I'm the guy that took up the challenge when you left. So you must be Rene or Alex I think

Unfortunately no word from the MS guy yet about the tool he mentioned.

Doc has a point there but like said users are strange creatures wanting the most weird things from the admins and each environment has it's own needs.
Had no time to dive into this issue for the last few days. You gotten somewhere yet iffy?
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#140614 - 2005-06-05 09:29 PM Re: Quick Launch Challenge
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Sorry, haven't had time to really test it either. The links looks promising tho, but will probably need some work. And off topic: yup, it's me, Alex, perhaps I should give ya a call sometime and we'll have a beer "on the good old days"
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#140615 - 2005-06-05 10:20 PM Re: Quick Launch Challenge
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Sorry, haven't had time to really test it either. The links looks promising tho, but will probably need some work. And off topic: yup, it's me, Alex, perhaps I should give ya a call sometime and we'll have a beer "on the good old days"




Will see if I get some time to test next week. Little difficult but will se if there is an opportunity.

BTW: I'm always in for a beer. You know the number (if not just drop me a message) it was yours once
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#140616 - 2006-01-27 01:32 PM Re: Quick Launch Challenge
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Hi guys,

I've contacted Microsoft via phone and e-mail, and this morning received the tool mentioned in the earlier post. But, attaching a file to a post is not possible, so I'm not sure how to post it yet. I'll be back.
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