Going back to the suggestion of restoring the full functionality of stdout, the more I think of this the more I desire it! I know there have been discussions on the board in the past regarding using kixtart in IIS but it seems none of the solutions are (in my opinion) close to elegant or useful. I would love to be able to write good asp web pages without having to resort to vbscript. Perhaps Ruuds mention of dotnet ties in here? Maybe, but most likely wishful thinking on my part.