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ja Les good point, Was thinking about SetConsole but thought that if you launched kix32 directly out of usermgr, that the console would "flash" for a micro-second ... and that wkix32 would be the pure console-less login. I think DOC does his stuff this way (Doc?) ...
But if getting wkix32.exe into a existing environment is not possible, setconsole would be a good option ja.
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