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#123752 - 2004-07-27 10:13 PM Re: KiXgolf: Vigenere Cipher - Private coding
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That works for me. so you have '!.?' as sentence seperators and a space as word seperators, right?

And just so i'm on the same track as you, if there aren't any lower case letters in either of the parameters, we're not supposed to use the lcase alpha-block in our table, right? Anyway, here's the last run.

Code:

KiXtart
KiXtart Version = 4.22
KiXforms Version =
KiXGolf Script = kixgolf_vigenere.kix

Computer
OS = Windows XP Professional
CPU = Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.80GHz
Speed = 2790 MHz
Memory = 1024 MB

KiXGolf Scoring Engine
Scoring Engine = 3.0.3

KiXtart Golf Score
Tournament = KiXtart Golf: Vigenere Cipher
Valid Cipher Ops = 10 (111%)
Processing Start = 2004/07/27 15:59:41.371
Processing End = 2004/07/27 15:59:41.402
Duration = 0000/00/00 00:00:00.031
KiXGolf Score = 435

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#123753 - 2004-07-27 10:31 PM Re: KiXgolf: Vigenere Cipher - Private coding
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damn you!
me at 448 and have no idea where to cut more

yep, same rules.
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#123754 - 2004-07-27 10:54 PM Re: KiXgolf: Vigenere Cipher - Private coding
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yippee!
KiXGolf Score = 432

weird think...
removing all the fine kixgolf code and using stupid syntax seems to give lot better results on this golf.

[&#8364;dit]
KiXGolf Score = 430
KiXGolf Score = 427
KiXGolf Score = 424
KiXGolf Score = 423


Edited by Lonkero (2004-07-27 11:16 PM)
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#123755 - 2004-07-28 12:05 AM Re: KiXgolf: Vigenere Cipher - Private coding
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Quote:


KiXtart Golf Score
Tournament = KiXtart Golf: Vigenere Cipher
Valid Cipher Ops = 10 (111%)
Processing Start = 2004/07/27 17:52:56.453
Processing End = 2004/07/27 17:52:56.484
Duration = 0000/00/00 00:00:00.030
KiXGolf Score = 420



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#123756 - 2004-07-28 12:14 AM Re: KiXgolf: Vigenere Cipher - Private coding
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I got already 2 lot different codes which both come to 423.
running soon out of beer and still no idea what the heck to do to beat you.
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#123757 - 2004-07-28 12:26 AM Re: KiXgolf: Vigenere Cipher - Private coding
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Don't worry about me, i just realized that i missed this

Quote:


If the cipher key contains such characters, they are to be discarded prior to building the cipher table.





So my golf score will be going up i'm sure.
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#123758 - 2004-07-28 12:32 AM Re: KiXgolf: Vigenere Cipher - Private coding
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bah i give up.
With the weird upercase/lcase rules, this is no longer a straight shift cipher.

but i did code this

Code:

0123456789ZYXWVUTSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBAabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz
123456789ZYXWVUTSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBAabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz0
23456789ZYXWVUTSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBAabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz01
3456789ZYXWVUTSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBAabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz012
456789ZYXWVUTSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBAabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz0123
56789ZYXWVUTSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBAabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz01234
6789ZYXWVUTSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBAabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz012345
789ZYXWVUTSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBAabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz0123456
89ZYXWVUTSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBAabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz01234567
9ZYXWVUTSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBAabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz012345678
ZYXWVUTSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBAabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz0123456789
YXWVUTSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBAabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz0123456789Z
XWVUTSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBAabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz0123456789ZY
WVUTSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBAabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz0123456789ZYX
VUTSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBAabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz0123456789ZYXW
UTSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBAabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz0123456789ZYXWV
TSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBAabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz0123456789ZYXWVU
SRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBAabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz0123456789ZYXWVUT
RQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBAabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz0123456789ZYXWVUTS
QPONMLKJIHGFEDCBAabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz0123456789ZYXWVUTSR
PONMLKJIHGFEDCBAabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz0123456789ZYXWVUTSRQ
ONMLKJIHGFEDCBAabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz0123456789ZYXWVUTSRQP
NMLKJIHGFEDCBAabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz0123456789ZYXWVUTSRQPO
MLKJIHGFEDCBAabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz0123456789ZYXWVUTSRQPON
LKJIHGFEDCBAabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz0123456789ZYXWVUTSRQPONM
KJIHGFEDCBAabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz0123456789ZYXWVUTSRQPONML
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HGFEDCBAabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz0123456789ZYXWVUTSRQPONMLKJI
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bcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz0123456789ZYXWVUTSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBAa
cdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz0123456789ZYXWVUTSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBAab
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fghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz0123456789ZYXWVUTSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBAabcde
ghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz0123456789ZYXWVUTSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBAabcdef
hijklmnopqrstuvwxyz0123456789ZYXWVUTSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBAabcdefg
ijklmnopqrstuvwxyz0123456789ZYXWVUTSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBAabcdefgh
jklmnopqrstuvwxyz0123456789ZYXWVUTSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBAabcdefghi
klmnopqrstuvwxyz0123456789ZYXWVUTSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBAabcdefghij
lmnopqrstuvwxyz0123456789ZYXWVUTSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBAabcdefghijk
mnopqrstuvwxyz0123456789ZYXWVUTSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBAabcdefghijkl
nopqrstuvwxyz0123456789ZYXWVUTSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBAabcdefghijklm
opqrstuvwxyz0123456789ZYXWVUTSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBAabcdefghijklmn
pqrstuvwxyz0123456789ZYXWVUTSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBAabcdefghijklmno
qrstuvwxyz0123456789ZYXWVUTSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBAabcdefghijklmnop
rstuvwxyz0123456789ZYXWVUTSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBAabcdefghijklmnopq
stuvwxyz0123456789ZYXWVUTSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBAabcdefghijklmnopqr
tuvwxyz0123456789ZYXWVUTSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBAabcdefghijklmnopqrs
uvwxyz0123456789ZYXWVUTSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBAabcdefghijklmnopqrst
vwxyz0123456789ZYXWVUTSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBAabcdefghijklmnopqrstu
wxyz0123456789ZYXWVUTSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBAabcdefghijklmnopqrstuv
xyz0123456789ZYXWVUTSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBAabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvw
yz0123456789ZYXWVUTSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBAabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwx
z0123456789ZYXWVUTSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBAabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxy



just watch it for a while and it starts to move!!!!

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#123759 - 2004-07-28 01:09 AM Re: KiXgolf: Vigenere Cipher - Private coding
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you giving up?
hey, not so soon.

thanks maciep, now I can go to sleep.
been watching the code for hours and been searching for kixtart bug that you must have found...
and then you say this.

anyway, was nice having you at this level. got some strokes out of my code, thanks to you
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#123760 - 2004-07-28 04:41 AM Re: KiXgolf: Vigenere Cipher - Private coding
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Bryce : Yeah, that thing does start moving:

Howard: We ended up at "Stock's on 2nd" (definitely recommended) :-) and at the airport for 2 hours today (delayed plane from Philly) :-( I'd also recomend the brewpub, good choice.

Jooel: Yes, I was in a hurry to get this KiXgolf started.

Howard and I discussed the current KiXgolf over a couple of beers and what my original intentions were with regards to the whole offset business. Unfortunately, Jooel found a bug in the original version, and told me only about 20 minutes before I had to catch a plane, thus the quick fix requiring the shifting of the encrypted letter.

I hope, that by now everybody has fiured out what exactly the shifting of the letters is about, essentially within the first word, all letters are shifted by +1 after encryption, e.g. '1' to '2' and '2' to '3', whereas for the decryption it would be -1, thus '2' back to '1'. For the second word, it would be '1' to '3' and so on, and the last characters would circle back to the first, e.g. 'z'+1='0' and 'z'+2='1'.

Let me know if you need further clarifications.
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#123761 - 2004-07-28 06:31 AM Re: KiXgolf: Vigenere Cipher - Private coding
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KiXtart
KiXtart Version = 4.22
KiXforms Version =
KiXGolf Script = kixgolf_vigenere.kix

Computer
OS = Windows 2000 Professional
CPU = Intel Pentium III
Speed = 848 MHz
Memory = 512 MB

KiXGolf Scoring Engine
Scoring Engine = 3.0.3

KiXtart Golf Score
Tournament = KiXtart Golf: Vigenere Cipher
Valid Cipher Ops = 10 (111%)
Processing Start = 2004/07/28 00:12:40.774
Processing End = 2004/07/28 00:12:43.408
Duration = 0000/00/00 00:00:02.634
KiXGolf Score = 472

Thank you for participating in KiXtart Golf!

KiXGolf Score = 465
KiXGolf Score = 460
KiXGolf Score = 445
KiXGolf Score = 441
KiXGolf Score = 431


Edited by Howard Bullock (2004-07-28 07:58 AM)
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#123762 - 2004-07-28 04:59 PM Re: KiXgolf: Vigenere Cipher - Private coding
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Really fast you guys.

Me got it working on paper... Now to code it.

Jens, got a question about the 'sentence' rule. A sentence could also end with a ! or a ?. Must we count for this in this game?

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#123763 - 2004-07-28 05:39 PM Re: KiXgolf: Vigenere Cipher - Private coding
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if you read above, he answered to my question which seems very well.
taken his answer, yes, we have !, . and ? as sentence separators.

beware, in the tester there is not a single multi-sentence tasks so it may give 111% even though that part ain't working.

[frustration note]
my laptops touchpad broke down. damn...
need a reboot...
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#123764 - 2004-07-28 06:02 PM Re: KiXgolf: Vigenere Cipher - Private coding
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Lonkero, I just might be able to catch you... Keep checking your review mirror.
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#123765 - 2004-07-28 06:12 PM Re: KiXgolf: Vigenere Cipher - Private coding
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this is really weird.
I just tried to fall back to some kix 2.32 syntax and got it shorter!

Code:


KiXtart
KiXtart Version = 4.22
KiXforms Version =
KiXGolf Script = kixgolf_vigenere.kix

Computer
OS = Windows 2000 Professional
CPU = Intel Pentium III Mobile
Speed = 933 MHz
Memory = 256 MB

KiXGolf Scoring Engine
Scoring Engine = 3.0.3

KiXtart Golf Score
Tournament = KiXtart Golf: Vigenere Cipher
Valid Cipher Ops = 10 (111%)
Processing Start = 2004/07/28 18:59:16.937
Processing End = 2004/07/28 18:59:17.018
Duration = 0000/00/00 00:00:00.080
KiXGolf Score = 418

Thank you for participating in KiXtart Golf!

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#123766 - 2004-07-28 07:10 PM Re: KiXgolf: Vigenere Cipher - Private coding
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Ugh!
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#123767 - 2004-07-28 07:34 PM Re: KiXgolf: Vigenere Cipher - Private coding
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Crawling back

KiXtart Golf Score
Tournament = KiXtart Golf: Vigenere Cipher
Valid Cipher Ops = 10 (111%)
Processing Start = 2004/07/28 13:22:37.949
Processing End = 2004/07/28 13:22:37.980
Duration = 0000/00/00 00:00:00.031
KiXGolf Score = 448
KiXGolf Score = 420
KiXGolf Score = 409
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#123768 - 2004-07-29 01:03 AM Re: KiXgolf: Vigenere Cipher - Private coding
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maciep, you kidding me?

just came home and was ready to hit the sack, and now this!
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#123769 - 2004-07-29 01:09 AM Re: KiXgolf: Vigenere Cipher - Private coding
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you've got plenty of time.
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#123770 - 2004-07-29 02:02 AM Re: KiXgolf: Vigenere Cipher - Private coding
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Bite me!
went to really wicked code (see the execution time)

KiXtart Golf Score
Tournament = KiXtart Golf: Vigenere Cipher
Valid Cipher Ops = 10 (111%)
Processing Start = 2004/07/29 02:50:12.597
Processing End = 2004/07/29 02:50:13.058
Duration = 0000/00/00 00:00:00.461
KiXGolf Score = 400
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#123771 - 2004-07-29 02:04 AM Re: KiXgolf: Vigenere Cipher - Private coding
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Hehee!
it's time to rock

KiXGolf Score = 398
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