#122690 - 2004-07-12 06:18 PM
more on setting timedate in login script etc.
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Shawn
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thought I would carry-over the timedate conversation from this thread:
http://www.kixtart.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB2&Number=121379
here. Interesting problem just crossed my desk. Like good MS citizens we didn't give our user settime privilege on their new XP boxes (they had in under NT), now I'm getting complaints from "the field" that they can't double-click on the tray clock anymore, to bring-up the time and date calander - which im told they use quite a bit in their daily routine.
Figured MS would have still allowed it to come up in "read-only" mode but guess not, anyone got any quick-fixes (other than installing some third-party product) ?
-Shawn
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#122691 - 2004-07-12 06:28 PM
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Howard Bullock
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Can't they use the calendar in their email/scheduling client?
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#122693 - 2004-07-12 06:37 PM
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Howard Bullock
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Thought that was too easy an answer...sorry for making you aire your dirty laundry.
I will look in my spare time and see if an answer arrives before I post again.
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#122695 - 2004-07-12 09:24 PM
Re: more on setting timedate in login script etc.
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Shawn
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One of my more "pro-active" co-workers challenged Microsoft on this - here's "their" response. Of interest mostly for the "P.S." ...
Quote:
I don't think we'll get far with [your] users being able to use the calendar
from the system tray. There's no notion of read-only access to the
Calendar. If you're in either the Administrators or PowerUsers groups, you
can open the applet and change the time, etc. If you're in neither, it does
not even open. Read-only access would be better, but the current behavior
is by design, so we shouldn't expect it to change short term.
The behavior is described in Q300022 "You Cannot Set the Date, Time, or
Time Zone on Your Computer"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;300022
An alternative would be to have someone create a quick app (or look for some
code examples) to implment a simple calendar pop-up.
[Microsoft]
P.S. the tie-in between authentication and time is part of the
Kerberos standard. Keeping the Server and client roughly in sync w.r.t. the
current time plays an important role in preventing replay attacks. In such
an attack, a 3rd party would sniff credentials on the network and try to
resend them to the server, pretending to be the original client. A common
understanding of the current time at both client and server assists in
detecting and preventing such an attack.
-Shawn
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#122699 - 2004-07-13 01:18 AM
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Kdyer
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I have used TcClockex as well, but looks kind of funky under XP.
Kent
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#122705 - 2004-07-13 08:04 PM
Re: more on setting timedate in login script etc.
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Shawn
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Rory, ja - we didn't want to give our user settime priv, either explicitly through rights or by making them power user or local admins. Anyway its a mute point - our "boss user" came back and said "to hell with them (the users), if they can't use the std clock/calendar then so be it. they probably got two or three real ones on their friggin desk anways" ... lol
So all that hard-work to build a little custom app was for naught - even got it running from the system tray ! (wah) ...
-Shawn
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#122708 - 2004-07-13 08:50 PM
Re: more on setting timedate in login script etc.
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Shawn
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ja i did (have fun), its at the same dl point as before, here:
clock.zip
ok - i cheated a bit - plus implementing the real clock with the hands and the second hand is *way* too much work. By the way, the calendar control and even that funky custom LED display is on the KF todo list :0) ...
-Shawn
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