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#12265 - 2001-09-13 07:15 AM Off Topic - Thanks Canada
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I know this is Off Topic, but I just wanted to say thanks to this Canadian Reporter.

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Only partial news coverage was given recently to a remarkable editorial
broadcast from Toronto by Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian television
commentator. What follows is the full text of his trenchant remarks as
printed in the Canadian Congressional Record:

"This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for
the Americans as the most generous and possibly the
least appreciated people on all the earth.

Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and
Italy were lifted out of the debris of war by the
Americans who poured in billions of dollars and
forgave other billions in debts. None of these
countries is today paying even the interest on its
remaining debts to the United States.

When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956,
it was the Americans who propped it up, and their
reward was to be insulted and swindled on the
streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it.

When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the
United States that hurries in to help. This spring,
59 American communities were flattened by tornadoes.

Nobody helped.

The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped
billions of dollars into discouraged countries. Now
newspapers in those countries are writing about the
decadent, warmongering Americans.

I'd like to see just one of those countries that
is gloating over the erosion of the United States
dollar build its own airplane. Does any other
country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet, the
Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10?

If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all the
International lines except Russia fly American
Planes?

Why does no other land on earth even consider putting
a man or woman on the moon? You talk about Japanese
technocracy, and you get radios. You talk about
German technocracy, and you get automobiles.


You talk about American technocracy, and you find
men on the moon - not once, but several times -
and safely home again.

You talk about scandals, and the Americans put theirs
right in the store window for everybody to look at.

Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued and hounded.

They are here on our streets, and most of them, unless
they are breaking Canadian laws, are getting American
dollars from ma and pa at home to spend here.

When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down
through age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them.
When the Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central went broke,
nobody loaned them an old caboose. Both are still broke.

I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced
to the help of other people in trouble. Can you
name me even one time when someone else raced to the
Americans in trouble? I don't think there was
outside help even during the San Francisco earthquake.

Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one
Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them get
kicked around. They will come out of this thing
with their flag high. And when they do, they are
entitled to thumb their nose at the lands that are gloating over their
present troubles. I hope Canada is not one of those."

Stand proud, America! Wear it proudly!!

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#12266 - 2001-09-14 12:04 AM Re: Off Topic - Thanks Canada
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Right on DOC,

here's just a side note about the willing to help here in Germany (I'm aware that it's not too much but ...)

There are some complete Red Cross Rescue Dog squads waiting to get there ... No chance because all flights are cancelled

The blood donations from ppl here ... same reason

The German Air Force offered their Airbus and Transall Machines for transportation of wounded ...

Don't forget Article 5 (Nato Resolution) came into force yesterday ...


btw. Yesterday I saw a quotation that left me quite scared :

quote:

"In the City of God there will be a great thunder,
Two brothers torn apart by Chaos,
while the fortress endures,
the great leader will succumb
The third big war will begin when the big city is burning"

- Nostradamus 1654


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#12267 - 2001-09-14 12:24 AM Re: Off Topic - Thanks Canada
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The Netherlands have stated that they would do anything to help the US, without reservations or strings attached.

We have a day of mourning tomorrow, and the whole country will have a tree minute silence at 12:00 o'clock.

Please know that we will do anything to help the US through this tragedy. But it's true, there's not really much we can really help with.

It's kinda like seeing your big brother getting beat up in a street fight and there's nothing you can do about it.

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#12268 - 2001-09-13 11:22 PM Re: Off Topic - Thanks Canada
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There is a lot of street talk going around about the possibility of 'finishing' what was started 10 years ago in the middle east.

Of course this really depends on what the President does, no one really wants to hit an obvious target, and let the real one get away.

But the Average American is enthuasitic about the POSSIBILITY of war. Unfortunately, this will not be a war like WWI or WWII where both sides will stand up and trade hits and who ever hits hardest will win. This one will be dirty with car bombs, and lots of civillian casualities... probably in Europe as well.

If or when this is over, we may find that it has cost us more than we thought. There are still scars from WWII and I don't believe anyone in Ireland has had a good night's sleep in 100 years or more.

Sometimes there is nothing to do but jump in with both feet and smiw.

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#12269 - 2001-09-13 11:48 PM Re: Off Topic - Thanks Canada
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I don't want to be to rude about your article NTDOC but the american have'nt gave all this cash at the time just to be kind...
At the time, the cold war was raging and everytime that an economy was going down, the communism was getting popular...
So instead risking of paying themselves a HUGE war, the US placed their money in the reconstruction of weakened countries particularly the ones near the USSR...

The US never sent tons of cash to central or south america... There they simply removed governement who were too much on the left side in the politics view... Allende his the saddest example in all this. He was replaced by a dictator who killed his own people by thousands...

They "gave" their money simply to conserve their superiority and their allied intact. That's all.
Today, they are doing the same thing at a lesser extent with Russia for example.

Anyway, i DO like this philosophy. Instead of concentrating on armament to conserve the military control they put it on economy to acheive the same goal which is A LOT MORE glorious deed than war...

Oh! about Nostradanus (yes NostradaNus) , it seems he saw the end of the world since the last 10 years


To finish, i want to say that in a certain way, the journalist is wrong. The events of this week showed how much the US is appreciated from around the world. Everybody wants to help them in this terrible incident. Well, NTDOC as the saying goes (a french saying translated): It's when times are hard that you know who your friends are.

Well, you have a entire planet on your side...

With respect

Frédéric

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#12270 - 2001-09-18 02:44 AM Re: Off Topic - Thanks Canada
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A nice link showing many sites around the world.

Thank You

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#12271 - 2001-09-18 05:37 AM Re: Off Topic - Thanks Canada
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Doc, I lit a candle for America ...

-Shawn

[ 18 September 2001: Message edited by: Shawn ]

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