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#112165 - 2004-01-21 12:28 PM OT: MikeRoweSoft...
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Microsoft Takes on Teen Over Web Site

VANCOUVER, British Columbia (AP) - Mike Rowe thinks it's funny that his catchy name for a Web site design company sounds a lot like Microsoft.

The software giant, however, is not amused.

``Since my name is Mike Rowe, I thought it would be funny to add 'soft' to the end of it,'' said Rowe, a 17-year-old computer geek and Grade 12 student in Victoria, British Columbia.

Microsoft Corp. and its attorneys have demanded that he give up his domain name, the Vancouver Province newspaper reported Sunday.

Rowe registered the name in August. In November, he received a letter from Microsoft's Canadian lawyers, Smart & Biggar, informing him he was committing copyright infringement.

He was advised to transfer the name to the Redmond, Wash.-based corporation.

``I didn't think they would get all their high-priced lawyers to come after me,'' Rowe said.

He wrote back asking to be compensated for giving up his name. Microsoft's lawyers offered him $10 in U.S. funds. Then he asked for $10,000.

On Thursday, he received a 25-page letter accusing him of trying to force Microsoft into giving him a large settlement.

``I never even thought of getting anything out of them,'' he said, adding that he only asked for the $10,000 because he was ``sort of mad at them for only offering 10 bucks.''

He said family and friends are backing him and a lawyer has offered to advise him for free.

He's also keeping his sense of humor.

``It's not their name. It's my name. I just think it's kind of funny that they'd go after a 17-year-old,'' Rowe said.

Company spokesman Jim Desler said Sunday, ``Microsoft has been in communication with Mr. Rowe in a good faith effort to reach a mutually agreeable resolution. And we remain hopeful we can resolve this issue to everyone's satisfaction.''

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www.microsoft.com

01/19/04 08:05
© Copyright The Associated Press. All rights reserved. The information contained In this news report may not be published, broadcast or otherwise distributed without the prior written authority of The Associated Press.



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#112166 - 2004-01-21 02:21 PM Re: OT: MikeRoweSoft...
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co, did you have permission to re-distribute this text onto to this board?
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#112167 - 2004-01-21 03:31 PM Re: OT: MikeRoweSoft...
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Euhhh...
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#112168 - 2004-01-21 03:40 PM Re: OT: MikeRoweSoft...
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© Copyright The Associated Press. All rights reserved. The information contained In this news report may not be published, broadcast or otherwise distributed without the prior written authority of The Associated Press.




Looks like a clear violation of copyright!
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#112169 - 2004-01-21 04:21 PM Re: OT: MikeRoweSoft...
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yeah...
co, just wait for the lawyers
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#112170 - 2004-01-21 07:08 PM Re: OT: MikeRoweSoft...
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Who's the moderator on this board? He/they could get embroiled in the legal action too.

Better to remove the clear violation of copyright, me thinks.
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#112171 - 2004-01-21 08:31 PM Re: OT: MikeRoweSoft...
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MMM, Dealing with the North American Continental.... The I sue you culture....



Well, maybe they don't sue me when I publish the URLs:

http://www.1510.com/storyReader.asp?article=4841
http://eai.ittoolbox.com/news/dispnews.asp?i=108106&t=7&a=WD
http://news.findlaw.com/ap_stories/other/features/1120/1-19-2004/20040119053003_20.html
http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/84-01192004-230039.html
http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/MICROSOFT_UNHAPPY?SITE=NVREN&SECTION=HOME
http://java.ittoolbox.com/news/dispnews.asp?i=108106&t=7&a=WD
etc. etc.


Pfff, You guys are overreacting the same way Microsoft did... It was meant to be funny...


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#112172 - 2004-01-21 09:25 PM Re: OT: MikeRoweSoft...
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Pfff, You guys are overreacting the same way Microsoft did...



It was meant as a sad commentary on the reality of the USA's litigious nature.
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#112173 - 2004-01-21 09:34 PM Re: OT: MikeRoweSoft...
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yes.
and note, we are not from US.
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#112174 - 2004-01-21 09:46 PM Re: OT: MikeRoweSoft...
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Just take a look at German regulations. They require websites to have an imprint including contact name and address. Additionally, website oweners can be held responsible for content on other than their own website that the site links to. See for example http://www.heise.de/tp/english/inhalt/te/1260/1.html or www.rrz.uni-hamburg.de/hans-bredow-institut/ publikationen/apapiere/14liability.PDF and www.uni-muenster.de/Jura.itm/hoeren/INHALTE/ publikationen/Auteurs&Media-Article.pdf for some articles on the legal implications of the German "Multimedia Law".

So, technically, Henri as the BBS operator could be held liable if copyright infringement happens on this board and the copyright owner decides to pursue legal proceedings in that regard.
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#112175 - 2004-01-21 10:04 PM Re: OT: MikeRoweSoft...
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we are not from US.



...but The Associated Press is.
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#112176 - 2004-01-21 10:14 PM Re: OT: MikeRoweSoft...
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well, basically not.
board is not thought as website but a service for civilians.
so only thing henri could be notified about is that his control is too loose.
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#112177 - 2004-01-21 10:42 PM Re: OT: MikeRoweSoft...
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yes.
and note, we are not from US.





Yeh I know Lonkero... but you are a pain in the ass...

I expect always comment from you..


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#112178 - 2004-01-21 10:47 PM Re: OT: MikeRoweSoft...
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Lonkero,

About your last reply...

You are right.. Just like Kazaa / tape records and things like that..

Kazaa isn't (in the Netherlands) illegal but offering illegal stuff like mp3's, software etc. is..


And euh, here is a link I don't quote this Associated Press anymore..
Dutch Court Throws Out Kazaa Case - Associated Press


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#112179 - 2004-01-21 10:50 PM Re: OT: MikeRoweSoft...
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So, Since this board is hosted in the Netherlands I think there isn't a problem for Henri... He probably has to delete this quote..

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#112180 - 2004-01-21 11:06 PM Re: OT: MikeRoweSoft...
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Maybe a point for the ABC's of Kixtart board etiquette...
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#112181 - 2004-01-21 11:11 PM Re: OT: MikeRoweSoft...
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I always liked The Netherlands because of the coffee shops. Nice coffee ;-)

In general, I have the impression that Holland has one of the most liberal sets of laws in Europe. Germany on the other hand...
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#112182 - 2004-01-21 11:34 PM Re: OT: MikeRoweSoft...
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I know what you mean...

But there is also the way Germans interfere with each other... I have been told by Germans who come every summer to Holland for vacation. They love Holland because there is no one who tells them what the rules are... Fore example When their children aren't in bed at 22:00 things like that..
(Sie sollen ihren kinder beobachten! - Watch your kids!)

About the coffeeshops.. They are against the law but it wasn't a priority for the government to do something about it . They call this "gedogen" or "gedoogbeleid". I don't know how to translate those words in English. Since there isn't a socialistic cabinet anymore the new one tells us they will change this policy.. I think this is a good idea because people needs rules...


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#112183 - 2004-01-22 05:12 PM Re: OT: MikeRoweSoft...
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Yeah, there are similar 'illegalities' in Germany. For example, a definition for 'personal consumption' is the stuff that fits into a box of matches (afer you removed the matches), and 'personal consumption' will not be prosecuted as this would overload the German judiciary system.
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#112184 - 2004-01-22 05:37 PM Re: OT: MikeRoweSoft...
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Well, maybe the solution is - when we find something of interest to share with the group, we should paraphrase it (just enough text to fill a matchbox, after the matches are removed ), and link to the original document.

This way, the point gets across and liability of copyright infringement is minimized.

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