all I was saying and all I say (while my new try at getting w2k work on my exotic wksta) is that the gui is just basically add-on to the util.

I got already used to the idea of making it skinnable but found that first it's too hard job for me and latest that kixforms does not support that.

anyway, as you all can see, the way I used to do my scripts is still visible in many places.
like in PM.kix or init.kix
looks almost 3.63 code.

now, if I could get the code renewing (that is essential for 3.0) going, it would make also the mainform... well, the main visible form a separate udf.

and if I get on it, I might make the all forms look the same.
so, they would not be anymore createobject forms but checkerform()s [Wink]

what I still am trying to say, is that the look&feel (which is all normal user sees in the appy) is totally secondary.
the old buggy board code needs a full renewal into cleaner one.
and after that will need to come the supporting udf's (loadnet, load, pmsend, pmread) which require the web.
and after that comes the gui.
and even in that level comes the control level only.
not the visible part.
control level consisting of timers and .tags and few arrays and zillion of temp-files.

and at the top of the iceberg is what you see, the GUI.

now, I've been wasting lot of time working on the GUI.
actually, most of the code time since 1.5 has been with the GUI.

and when I say that do change the gui I mean that if you don't like it, tweak it a little and suggest your tweak into new ver.
if others like it, it will probably... maybe... don't think so... be there [Big Grin]
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